Another idea for comments

Len Ovens len at
Mon Jul 30 14:18:49 UTC 2012

On Sun, July 29, 2012 10:37 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 22:18 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
>> A fair number of people remove pulse rather than learn how to use
>> pulse and jack together well.
> I wouldn't use a distro that won't allow me to get rid of Poettering's
> crap. If a distro would force me to use pulseaudio or systemd at the
> current state of development, I wouldn't use this distro.

Choice is king. Making a package non-removable is not something I want to
start doing. For a one use box many things can be removed. In a
professional or serious amateur setting, I would expect a one use box. A
second multi-use box for desktop use is always an option and someone
serious enough to have a one use box, likely has an extra older box around
they can use for that. In a professional setting, accounting (with an sql
server running) would not be done on a recording box, but on another box

As there is a move to combine the live dvd and alt style install on one
ISO (somehow without doubling the size) I am hopeful we will be able to
allow just installing one workflow. From your comments and those of
others, I am thinking that there is one more workflow meta we need to
offer. I am not sure what to name it, I had thought desktop-tools, but
that may confused with desktop we already use. Whatever the name it would
include the packages we ship now as standard to combine normal desktop use
with studio use. Things like pulse, auto-update, CUPS, firefox (not sure
about this one, some applications use a browser for docs... dillo
instead?), any of the media playback options that require gstreamer (and
pulse). That is a list off the top of my head, so neither complete or

Another project in the works is a mode switch that turns off services
harmful to audio (or whatever) use such as cron and friends, pulse (or at
least bridging) and set cpu-freq to performance (or perhaps a user
selected speed... I haven't tried that yet... it is a lot harder as the
config utility would require finding out what speeds are supported) Even
unload bad-for-audio kernel modules (like the wireless module on one of my
machines). I am actually using this on my netbook for audio work now and
it works very well. It takes hardware that has no serious audio
application and makes it into a quiet solid audio machine. Right now the
files are hand configured, the next step is a gui configuration tool with
suitable documentation. The way I use it is as a tray icon with a
click-select to select the mode. It can also be setup to change modes on
jackd startup/shutdown. I have not looked at session managers doing so as
yet, but if they can run a command they could.

There are a lot of options. I don't think we should limit Studio to only one.

Len Ovens

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