Volti and GNOME 3, phones, locked phones, and "secure boot"

Luke Kuhn lukekuhn at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 17 17:55:33 UTC 2011


As I said, I've never had or used any form of smartphone due to both the expense and the security issues. I carry a dumb phone with the battery out to prevent tracking, use it like a mobile pay phone for outgoing calls, and a netbook with a copy of my desktop OS (heavily hacked video editing mix losely based on Ubuntustudio and GNOME3 with other DE's available) on it. All the smartphones I've seen were ones used by others at random.  I do not trust the iPhone in particular due to it's location tracking database. This is one reason why Linux phones could be a big deal down the road for smartphone users.
 In addition, rooting phones to get control of the board and install Linux would prepare people for dealing with ugly UEFI "locked boot Windoze 8 " motherboards that might require rooting or even mod chips to boot OS's other than Windoze 8 on recycled machines with OEM motherboards in  a few years. Aftermarket motherboards are unlikely to be missing options to turn secure boot off or even modify it to work with Linux, but guess what happens if we have to tell everyone to buy a new board? If we have people rooting phones to install Ubuntu or some decendent of it,. when they want to turn an Ivy Bridge machine into a Linux workstation (because they now need somethign MORE than a phone), and it's one they got from work in 2015, they will now how to root the board so they can get rid of Windoze 8.
That may prove to the the real value of touch-enabled DE's-to get onto phones and tablets that are locked and have to be rooted, jailbroken, or otherwise hacked  today, so Micrsoft can't lock us out of motherboards tomorrow by paying OEM's not to allow disabling secure boot. 
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> > All have to support a traditional desktop as well because that one task at
> > a time interface is NOT suited to multitasking, something some of those
> > phones aren't even capable of!
> 
> 
> You've just never seen REAL linux phones. Just google some Maemo or MeeGo
> videos, or visit a nearby Nokia store and try N9 with MeeGo. After that
> you'll never dare to rant about single-task interface again.
> 
> Here's what I see in GNOME 3's future: Enough extensions to mimic any DE
> > from GNOME 2 to iPhone to Windoze 8 to Windows 95 to whatever Apple is
> > putting on their desktop, all using the same core and the same packages
> > except for the extensions. That way, if I am setting up a Linux box for
> > someone new to Linux, I need only know what they used to use to give them a
> > familiar environment.
> 
> 
> You kinda got that with GNOME2 already. There's a number of Mac clones, a
> number of Windows clones, a number of clones of things nobody ever heard
> about and even some clones of clones, but they all are so unpopular that
> you've never heard of most (or maybe any) of them. And there are good
> reasons for that.
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