[Proposal] - No instant messenger in Ubuntu Studio.

[Cory K.]

On 10/19/2009 07:48 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Cory K.<coryisatm at gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> I /thought/ I expressed my disapproval w/Ubuntu switching to Empathy
>> over Pidgin early in the cycle but I mighta just ranted in IRC. :P
>>
>> In any case, the more I thought about asking Luke to switch it in our
>> seeds I thought about whether it really makes sense for Studio? A distro
>> that is *not* a desktop distro.
>>
>> So I propose we support/ship no client by default. Let the user apt-get
>> whatever they like.
>>
>> Please chime in on this so we can act quickly. (as I'm sure we're
>> totally up against a freeze or something)
>>
>>
>> -Cory K.
>>
>>      
> IF there's still time, I'd support shipping Karmic without a
> messenger. The only downside is that we conduct much of the Ubuntu
> Studio work on IRC and shipping without any IRC client might send a
> slight anti-participatory signal to users (just a slight one).

As Studio is and has been from it's inception meant to be used on 
purpose-built, stand-alone systems I just don't feel it fits default.

> I do
> feel though that if we do ship a messenger, there's no reason to stray
> from the default Ubuntu client (empathy in this case).
>    

We stray *heavily* from Ubuntu anymore. Generally, I don't think that 
should be used as an excuse. I also very strongly feel that Empathy is a 
step down from Pidgin feature-wise.

So I say we axe a messenger for now. See if there's a backlash of any 
significance and look at this question again in Lucid in needed.


-Cory K.