[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

Thu Nov 20 05:48:21 UTC 2014

Hi! No, you are not alone, but our community is quite alone in Singapore...
unless you count Android users as Linux folks!   :)

Seriously, if you need anything at all, just text us here.

Regards, Rykel
On Nov 20, 2014 1:43 PM, "billy am" <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Never heard of that website
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> Ask your HR to put in following sites , or on mailing lists such as this
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> - Jobstreet.com.sg
> - jobbank.gov.sg (must!!!)
> - Monster.com.sg (if desperate)
> - stjobs
> - efinancialcareers(for finance industry jobs)
> -linkedin (high class high pay)
>
> If your HR doesn't know those then ...
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> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> We advertise where ever our hr is  :(, over that I don't have much of a
>> say.
>>
>> This is the job add.
>>
>> https://selecthr.accessacloud.com/HR20153/rEcruit/Recruitment/VacancyDetails.aspx?VacNo=208%20
>>
>>
>> We are 6 systems and tech support people, looking after about 250 people.
>> Around 700 computers mostly Linux and a stupid amount of storage for a
>> company of our size, about 2PB.  We also look after a few thousand compute
>> nodes in London when they are asleep.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:26 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> That is not hard to find. Most , or even everyone , people on this list
>>> can do it. Where are you advertising?
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For our entry level jobs I think we would consider have installed linux
>>>> once on a computer. But I cant even find that. 1-2 years of experience and
>>>> I wouldn't let you leave the interview, id produce contracts on the spot :D
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:17 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Because most entry level jobs postings require that you have at least
>>>>> 1 - 2 years of Linux working experience , not volunteer experience mind
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ravi Mohan <
>>>>> faileas.greywolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And most people want coders, rather than sysadmins, and the same sort
>>>>>> of sysadmin 'culture' I've seen with US based folks dosen't exist here to
>>>>>> the same extent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most linux folks here are self taught too - most schools here and in
>>>>>> the region are heavily into windows, and quite a lot of the older, more
>>>>>> experienced folks have no idea about linux - I was helping lecturers with
>>>>>> *years* of IT experience through putty of all things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  . And eh, job hunting for linux admin type jobs, especially at the
>>>>>> entry level is a bit of a pain. I've been applying to quite a few and no
>>>>>> luck yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few reasons why it is so hard to find Linux admins here , from my
>>>>>>> point of view and my experience applying jobs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) SG is small , tiny actually , total population is 5.3 millions.
>>>>>>> Compare that to Facebook/Twitter/Google customer base , in billions.
>>>>>>> Even if the entire Singapore population comes to your website , the daily
>>>>>>> hit rate will be no more than 5.3 millions.Compare that to Google/Facebook
>>>>>>> , in billions in hours , thats small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So then unless you are serving the regional market , why pay for
>>>>>>> Linux Admin , which is hard to find , than a Windows admin , which any Tom
>>>>>>> , Dick and Harry might be able to do with a simple training and certs? It
>>>>>>> would be like cracking a nut with an Elephant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Small country = small population also means that most companies
>>>>>>> are not interested/experienced in aiming/planning to scale up their
>>>>>>> operations. Few SG companies go out of SG to regional/global. So most don't
>>>>>>> see how IT costs can go up exponentially if you are a slave to M$.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again , contrast it with big countries , if you become popular in
>>>>>>> New York , you plan to conquer the entire US. There are plenty of Americans
>>>>>>> who might be interested in your product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3)  the dept head must be accountable for his payroll and SLA , so
>>>>>>> most will look for Windows admins. With VMWare , backup and restore is also
>>>>>>> easier. I got Windows boxes at work that crash weekly , but with the magic
>>>>>>> of VMWare snapshots , we can do DR and restore so that solves the problem
>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) A lot of big companies , Banks mainly , are also moving their IT
>>>>>>> infra to India/China with the rise of cloud usage. It no longer matters now
>>>>>>> if the DC is in Singapore or India. And of course , by the magic of very
>>>>>>> strong S$ , its definitely cheaper to hire outside than inside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Muhammad Heidir <
>>>>>>> md.heidir at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I deal with Linux blackboxes for the past 5 years ranging from
>>>>>>>> custom built BlueCoat Proxies, Barracuda appliances to Imperva SecureSphere
>>>>>>>> boxes.
>>>>>>>> They have been very useful stuff. Some customisable some are not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The best thing I ever did was to have one in AWS where it is
>>>>>>>> currently hosting my personal/family site. Its a reliable OS if you know
>>>>>>>> your way in it. But sometimes, its flaky when too many customisations are
>>>>>>>> being done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know what you are looking for and I’ll try my best to assist
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,     Muhammad Heidir  | Father, Husband, IT Freak
>>>>>>>> SystemX | Punggol Arcadia
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +65 9026 6674
>>>>>>>>       Website   Email <md.heidir at gmail.com>    Map
>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com.sg/?q=627A+Aljunied+Road,+BizTech+Centre,+#05-07,%20Singapore%20389842>
>>>>>>>> vCard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 12:07, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2 linux folk double the number of people I know who do tech in
>>>>>>>> admin for linux here :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our company is almost entirely linux, about around 700 machines. We
>>>>>>>> struggle to find any one who knows any thing about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do other people do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ive got about 17 years of experience picked up slackware in the
>>>>>>>> late 90's so I had something similar to the solaris at uni.  Though we do
>>>>>>>> mostly fedora/ubuntu at work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Used to be several ,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - LUGS (Linux Users Group of Singapore)
>>>>>>>>> - SUSE User Group
>>>>>>>>> - Fedora User Group
>>>>>>>>> - The rest I am not sure ... perhaps Mint may have?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We did use to have a annual FOSS day about 5 years ago but not
>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com
>>>>>>>>> (BETA)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there other linux user groups here? does any one do meet ups?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to Singapore!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are definitely not alone but there isn't that many Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> sysadmins either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pls let us know if you need any help adjusting to life in
>>>>>>>>>>> Singapore :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  ||
>>>>>>>>>>> http://shinyserver.com (BETA)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    I am a linux sysadmin new to Singapore, just wanted to reach
>>>>>>>>>>>> out and find out if I was alone :D
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