[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

billy am wickedpuppy at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 05:42:51 UTC 2014 

Never heard of that website

Ask your HR to put in following sites , or on mailing lists such as this

- Jobstreet.com.sg
- jobbank.gov.sg (must!!!)
- Monster.com.sg (if desperate)
- stjobs
- efinancialcareers(for finance industry jobs)
-linkedin (high class high pay)

If your HR doesn't know those then ...


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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:

> We advertise where ever our hr is  :(, over that I don't have much of a
> say.
>
> This is the job add.
>
> https://selecthr.accessacloud.com/HR20153/rEcruit/Recruitment/VacancyDetails.aspx?VacNo=208%20
>
>
> We are 6 systems and tech support people, looking after about 250 people.
> Around 700 computers mostly Linux and a stupid amount of storage for a
> company of our size, about 2PB.  We also look after a few thousand compute
> nodes in London when they are asleep.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:26 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That is not hard to find. Most , or even everyone , people on this list
>> can do it. Where are you advertising?
>>
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>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
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>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For our entry level jobs I think we would consider have installed linux
>>> once on a computer. But I cant even find that. 1-2 years of experience and
>>> I wouldn't let you leave the interview, id produce contracts on the spot :D
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:17 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Because most entry level jobs postings require that you have at least 1
>>>> - 2 years of Linux working experience , not volunteer experience mind you.
>>>>
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>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ravi Mohan <
>>>> faileas.greywolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And most people want coders, rather than sysadmins, and the same sort
>>>>> of sysadmin 'culture' I've seen with US based folks dosen't exist here to
>>>>> the same extent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most linux folks here are self taught too - most schools here and in
>>>>> the region are heavily into windows, and quite a lot of the older, more
>>>>> experienced folks have no idea about linux - I was helping lecturers with
>>>>> *years* of IT experience through putty of all things.
>>>>>
>>>>>  . And eh, job hunting for linux admin type jobs, especially at the
>>>>> entry level is a bit of a pain. I've been applying to quite a few and no
>>>>> luck yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A few reasons why it is so hard to find Linux admins here , from my
>>>>>> point of view and my experience applying jobs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) SG is small , tiny actually , total population is 5.3 millions.
>>>>>> Compare that to Facebook/Twitter/Google customer base , in billions.
>>>>>> Even if the entire Singapore population comes to your website , the daily
>>>>>> hit rate will be no more than 5.3 millions.Compare that to Google/Facebook
>>>>>> , in billions in hours , thats small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So then unless you are serving the regional market , why pay for
>>>>>> Linux Admin , which is hard to find , than a Windows admin , which any Tom
>>>>>> , Dick and Harry might be able to do with a simple training and certs? It
>>>>>> would be like cracking a nut with an Elephant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Small country = small population also means that most companies
>>>>>> are not interested/experienced in aiming/planning to scale up their
>>>>>> operations. Few SG companies go out of SG to regional/global. So most don't
>>>>>> see how IT costs can go up exponentially if you are a slave to M$.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again , contrast it with big countries , if you become popular in New
>>>>>> York , you plan to conquer the entire US. There are plenty of Americans who
>>>>>> might be interested in your product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3)  the dept head must be accountable for his payroll and SLA , so
>>>>>> most will look for Windows admins. With VMWare , backup and restore is also
>>>>>> easier. I got Windows boxes at work that crash weekly , but with the magic
>>>>>> of VMWare snapshots , we can do DR and restore so that solves the problem
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) A lot of big companies , Banks mainly , are also moving their IT
>>>>>> infra to India/China with the rise of cloud usage. It no longer matters now
>>>>>> if the DC is in Singapore or India. And of course , by the magic of very
>>>>>> strong S$ , its definitely cheaper to hire outside than inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Muhammad Heidir <
>>>>>> md.heidir at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I deal with Linux blackboxes for the past 5 years ranging from
>>>>>>> custom built BlueCoat Proxies, Barracuda appliances to Imperva SecureSphere
>>>>>>> boxes.
>>>>>>> They have been very useful stuff. Some customisable some are not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The best thing I ever did was to have one in AWS where it is
>>>>>>> currently hosting my personal/family site. Its a reliable OS if you know
>>>>>>> your way in it. But sometimes, its flaky when too many customisations are
>>>>>>> being done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know what you are looking for and I’ll try my best to assist
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,     Muhammad Heidir  | Father, Husband, IT Freak
>>>>>>> SystemX | Punggol Arcadia
>>>>>>> Mobile: +65 9026 6674
>>>>>>>       Website   Email <md.heidir at gmail.com>    Map
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com.sg/?q=627A+Aljunied+Road,+BizTech+Centre,+#05-07,%20Singapore%20389842>
>>>>>>> vCard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 12:07, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 linux folk double the number of people I know who do tech in admin
>>>>>>> for linux here :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our company is almost entirely linux, about around 700 machines. We
>>>>>>> struggle to find any one who knows any thing about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do other people do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ive got about 17 years of experience picked up slackware in the late
>>>>>>> 90's so I had something similar to the solaris at uni.  Though we do mostly
>>>>>>> fedora/ubuntu at work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Used to be several ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - LUGS (Linux Users Group of Singapore)
>>>>>>>> - SUSE User Group
>>>>>>>> - Fedora User Group
>>>>>>>> - The rest I am not sure ... perhaps Mint may have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We did use to have a annual FOSS day about 5 years ago but not
>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com
>>>>>>>> (BETA)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are there other linux user groups here? does any one do meet ups?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to Singapore!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are definitely not alone but there isn't that many Linux
>>>>>>>>>> sysadmins either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pls let us know if you need any help adjusting to life in
>>>>>>>>>> Singapore :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  ||
>>>>>>>>>> http://shinyserver.com (BETA)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>    I am a linux sysadmin new to Singapore, just wanted to reach
>>>>>>>>>>> out and find out if I was alone :D
>>>>>>>>>>>
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