[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

Thu Nov 20 05:25:13 UTC 2014

If a company is not dealing with the end customer in SG directly , why
invest in SG at all? Aside from string and stable currency , banking and
finance infra and such?

Language wise , Malaysia and Indonesia are not that different. Its the
overall infra that is really outstanding. They have bigger potential
customer base as well.Cheaper land of course.

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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is if your dealing with your end customers directly, I doubt we have
> more than 100 customers around the entire world.
>
> You would think singapore is a good hub, strong English and Chinese
> languages, tying the old and new world together.
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:16 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That was just an example of course. Could be any company , even a bank.
>> No matter what industry , the Singaporean market can't be more than the
>> population , unless it is a regional/global MNC. If so , the DC can be in
>> other countries.
>>
>> For most Singapore SME companies , it simply does not make sense to plan
>> for more than 5 million customers , since thats all that in Singapore.
>>
>>
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>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
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>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We arent a web company, this is us www.dneg.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few reasons why it is so hard to find Linux admins here , from my
>>>> point of view and my experience applying jobs
>>>>
>>>> 1) SG is small , tiny actually , total population is 5.3 millions.
>>>> Compare that to Facebook/Twitter/Google customer base , in billions.
>>>> Even if the entire Singapore population comes to your website , the daily
>>>> hit rate will be no more than 5.3 millions.Compare that to Google/Facebook
>>>> , in billions in hours , thats small.
>>>>
>>>> So then unless you are serving the regional market , why pay for Linux
>>>> Admin , which is hard to find , than a Windows admin , which any Tom , Dick
>>>> and Harry might be able to do with a simple training and certs? It would be
>>>> like cracking a nut with an Elephant.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Small country = small population also means that most companies are
>>>> not interested/experienced in aiming/planning to scale up their operations.
>>>> Few SG companies go out of SG to regional/global. So most don't see how IT
>>>> costs can go up exponentially if you are a slave to M$.
>>>>
>>>> Again , contrast it with big countries , if you become popular in New
>>>> York , you plan to conquer the entire US. There are plenty of Americans who
>>>> might be interested in your product.
>>>>
>>>> 3)  the dept head must be accountable for his payroll and SLA , so most
>>>> will look for Windows admins. With VMWare , backup and restore is also
>>>> easier. I got Windows boxes at work that crash weekly , but with the magic
>>>> of VMWare snapshots , we can do DR and restore so that solves the problem
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> 4) A lot of big companies , Banks mainly , are also moving their IT
>>>> infra to India/China with the rise of cloud usage. It no longer matters now
>>>> if the DC is in Singapore or India. And of course , by the magic of very
>>>> strong S$ , its definitely cheaper to hire outside than inside.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Billy
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Muhammad Heidir <md.heidir at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>
>>>>> I deal with Linux blackboxes for the past 5 years ranging from custom
>>>>> built BlueCoat Proxies, Barracuda appliances to Imperva SecureSphere boxes.
>>>>> They have been very useful stuff. Some customisable some are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best thing I ever did was to have one in AWS where it is currently
>>>>> hosting my personal/family site. Its a reliable OS if you know your way in
>>>>> it. But sometimes, its flaky when too many customisations are being done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you are looking for and I’ll try my best to assist
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,     Muhammad Heidir  | Father, Husband, IT Freak
>>>>> SystemX | Punggol Arcadia
>>>>> Mobile: +65 9026 6674
>>>>>       Website   Email <md.heidir at gmail.com>    Map
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com.sg/?q=627A+Aljunied+Road,+BizTech+Centre,+#05-07,%20Singapore%20389842>
>>>>> vCard
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 12:07, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 linux folk double the number of people I know who do tech in admin
>>>>> for linux here :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Our company is almost entirely linux, about around 700 machines. We
>>>>> struggle to find any one who knows any thing about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do other people do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ive got about 17 years of experience picked up slackware in the late
>>>>> 90's so I had something similar to the solaris at uni.  Though we do mostly
>>>>> fedora/ubuntu at work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Used to be several ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - LUGS (Linux Users Group of Singapore)
>>>>>> - SUSE User Group
>>>>>> - Fedora User Group
>>>>>> - The rest I am not sure ... perhaps Mint may have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We did use to have a annual FOSS day about 5 years ago but not
>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there other linux user groups here? does any one do meet ups?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Welcome to Singapore!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are definitely not alone but there isn't that many Linux
>>>>>>>> sysadmins either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pls let us know if you need any help adjusting to life in Singapore
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com
>>>>>>>> (BETA)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>    I am a linux sysadmin new to Singapore, just wanted to reach
>>>>>>>>> out and find out if I was alone :D
>>>>>>>>>
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