[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster => Workshop considerations

Kheng Hui Yeo icedwater at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 15:23:53 GMT 2009


Dear Den,

By all means, do come for the event! Have you seen the registration
link at http://linuxnus.org/register/ubuntu ? :)

Cheers,
Kheng Hui
linuxNUS

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Visit Singapore 2009
<visitsingapore2009 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All
>
> Thank you for the information.
>
> I saw it on the www.ubuntu.sg website.  I am not from NUS, I am working,
> can I still join?  And how do I get to NUS COM1 /PL2?
>
> Sorry I am not too familiar with NUS.  Only been there once for a social
> event meeting.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sincerely
> Den
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>>
>> Its on 27th march
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Visit Singapore 2009 <visitsingapore2009 at gmail.com>
>> To: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
>> Cc: dave33bravo at yahoo.com; Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; Kheng Hui Yeo
>> <icedwater at gmail.com>; linuxnuscore <coreteam at linuxnus.org>; Team Ubuntu
>> Singapore Mailing List <ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2009 6:00:22
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster => Workshop
>> considerations
>>
>> Dear C David or anyone related to this project
>>
>> I am interested to attend this event, but I could not find the exact date:
>>
>> Saw the poster is 27 March 2009 but the website of www.ubuntu.sg is stated
>> as 27 April 2009 so which is which?
>>
>> I believe this is an interesting project but how to attend?
>>
>> Can someone enlighten me?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Den
>> Mobile: 81012268
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM, C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Skip to the bottom if you've been tracking this conversation where I
>>> reply to Heidir!
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:44 +0800, Muhammad Heidir wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:22 +0800, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > Good Morning ,
>>> > >
>>> > >               Here I would have to agree with David. Every now and
>>> > > then
>>> > > some of my friends' laptops would have trouble booting from a usb so
>>> > > to
>>> > > minimise the time troubleshooting possible problems , we could break
>>> > > up
>>> > > the whole thing into two segments as suggested by David eg lecture
>>> > > and
>>> > > tutorial.
>>> > >
>>> > > regards
>>> > > Billy
>>> > >
>>> > > PS : Today is the date for the trial right? Venue and Time? Sorry,
>>> > > I've
>>> > > been out-of-touch lately.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:08 +0800, C David Rigby wrote:
>>> > > > Good morning all,
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 19:22 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
>>> > > > > Hi Heidir,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I suggest removing the lines about having participants to bring
>>> > > > > in
>>> > > > > their own live cds. Instead ammend it with:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > "Participants are required(in bold) to bring their own
>>> > > > > thumbdrives/flash disks to fully take advantage of the OS
>>> > > > > demonstrations"
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Once the poster is finalized (ASAP). let me know. I will mail
>>> > > > > that out
>>> > > > > to the students.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Fucai
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Fucai, this does follow from my original intentions and proposal.
>>> > > > However, until we have tested the setup in the lab, I'm not sure
>>> > > > that we
>>> > > > can actually use the lab computers to write liveUSB images. Even if
>>> > > > we
>>> > > > can, that does not mean the liveUSB images will work well on the
>>> > > > participants own computers.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In particular, the BIOS of the particpant's own computer mus be set
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > boot from USB. My recent model Acer laptop, for example, has FOUR
>>> > > > options for USB boot: USB HDD, USB CDROM, USB FDD and USB KEY. It
>>> > > > will
>>> > > > boot from a USB Flash drive, which we normally call a USB Key, but
>>> > > > one
>>> > > > must choose the USB HDD option, not the USB KEY option, in order
>>> > > > for
>>> > > > this to work.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > So, it is not a trivial task to get that set up properly. Also to
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > point is that writing a liveUSB image is a time-consuming process.
>>> > > > If we
>>> > > > do it from the liveCDs, the liveCD systems really cannot do
>>> > > > anything
>>> > > > else during that time. Ergo, people will be sitting around with
>>> > > > little
>>> > > > activity for a (30 minutes or so).
>>> > > >
>>> > > > How about this:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Let's divide the workshop into two, one-hour sessions.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The first is a generic "Intro to the Desktop" presentation. Demo'd
>>> > > > by
>>> > > > the presenter, with participants following along on their
>>> > > > liveCD-booted
>>> > > > PCs. No participant equipment required.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The second half is a "Write Ubuntu to Your USB device". More
>>> > > > experimental, and participants must bring their own USB flash or
>>> > > > HDD of
>>> > > > AT LEAST 2 GB capacity and their own portable computer. They need
>>> > > > to be
>>> > > > warned that the contents of the USB device will be lost, so don't
>>> > > > bring
>>> > > > one full of critical data that is not backed up somewhere else.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Rather than put too much info on the poster, we simply indicate
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > participants need to check the website for full requirements for
>>> > > > the USB
>>> > > > installation. Kheng Hui, note that this means we need to expand the
>>> > > > registration form to provide a place where the participants can
>>> > > > indicate
>>> > > > whether or not they intend to participate in the USB install
>>> > > > option.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Again, I apologize for the uncertainties at this late date, but
>>> > > > until we
>>> > > > do the check out today at the lab, it will be tough to know exactly
>>> > > > what
>>> > > > we can offer in that environment and stay within reasonable
>>> > > > constraints
>>> > > > of time and personnel available.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thoughts, eveyone?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Cheers
>>> > > > CDR
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________
>>> > > > > From: Muhammad Heidir <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>
>>> > > > > To: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>; Kheng Hui Yeo
>>> > > > > <icedwater at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
>>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:29:18
>>> > > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Hi all,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Sorry I just managed to check my email now.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 1. David, could you provide the directions to the Arts Canteen?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 2. Fucai, Kheng Hui, is it possible to provide the full text
>>> > > > > which you
>>> > > > > need me to amend?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 3. I am still waiting for linuxNUS logo. If this is not possible,
>>> > > > > I
>>> > > > > will be creating the word with a sub tag below it, "Open Up to
>>> > > > > Open
>>> > > > > Source"
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 4. As suggested, I will be highlighting the logos on the poster..
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thank you.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Best Regards,
>>> > > > > Muhammad Heidir
>>> > > > > Yahoo!: dave33bravo | Multiply: doksg
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________
>>> > > > > From: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > To: Kheng Hui Yeo <icedwater at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
>>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:14:14
>>> > > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Kheng Hui Yeo
>>> > > > > <icedwater at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >         Hello Fucai,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >         Don't worry - linuxNUS can provide about 30. We just need
>>> > > > > help
>>> > > > >         burning
>>> > > > >         them all. ;) Though we've probably got that covered, too.
>>> > > > >         As for the registration, maybe you could send them to our
>>> > > > > link
>>> > > > >         http://www.linuxnus.org/register/ubuntu ?
>>> > > > >         We'll hand you a copy of the name list, don't worry about
>>> > > > > it.
>>> > > > >         Since
>>> > > > >         we've pretty much estimated the turnout and given the
>>> > > > > numbers
>>> > > > >         to SOC
>>> > > > >         admin, I take it this event is good to go?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >         Test session is tomorrow... the CDs won't all be burned
>>> > > > > by
>>> > > > >         then, but
>>> > > > >         we can bring some.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >         See you at COM1 then! As usual, David, Heidir, if you
>>> > > > > need
>>> > > > >         directions,
>>> > > > >         drop me a message (91804777). There's really poor
>>> > > > > reception
>>> > > > >         within
>>> > > > >         COM1. Ironic, but that's one thing to like about the
>>> > > > > building,
>>> > > > >         it's
>>> > > > >         got a sense of humour. I suggest we meet at the arts
>>> > > > > canteen
>>> > > > >         first at
>>> > > > >         around 3.50? (I'll be done with a class just before
>>> > > > > then.)
>>> > > > >         Fucai, you
>>> > > > >         can go straight of course, since you already know how to
>>> > > > > get
>>> > > > >         there. ;)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >         Best regards,
>>> > > > >         Kheng Hui
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > OK, I know the way to Arts Canteen. Heidir, advise myself or Keng
>>> > > > > Hui
>>> > > > > if you need directions.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I will also bring some CDs, enough for testing at any rate. I
>>> > > > > will
>>> > > > > provide more live CDs once we confirm that booting from live CD
>>> > > > > works
>>> > > > > in the lab. I have a stash of them left over from OSSPAC. Time
>>> > > > > permitting, I will also be producing labels for them that will
>>> > > > > show
>>> > > > > our groups' names and website addresses, as applicable.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > However, we have requested real, official Ubuntu live CDs for the
>>> > > > > event. We just do not know if they will arrive in time.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Keng Hui, noting that you also responded, you can help replenish
>>> > > > > my
>>> > > > > stock from linuxNUS' supply if you like.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards
>>> > > > > CDR
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________
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>>> > >
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> > I agree with David and Billy. Booting up and creating the Live USB
>>> > takes
>>> > time. We wouldnt want the session to be a troubleshooting lesson.
>>> >
>>> > We can have the split the session into 2 or hold another session on it
>>> > and other advanced topics.
>>> >
>>> > Still, do you require any changes on the poster as of now?
>>>
>>> Given that we need to get the poster out today, but that content of the
>>> presentation is still to be determined, let's do this:
>>>
>>>        1. Indicate that registration for the event is required, and
>>>        give the URL for linuxNUS' registration form.
>>>
>>>        2. In a large font, perhaps italicized font at the bottom, ask
>>>        the reader to (without the quotes, of course):
>>>
>>>                "Please visit our web site at
>>>                http://ubuntu.sg/UbuntuWorkshop_NUS for more information
>>>                on the event!"
>>>
>>>        This page is currently "under construction" but I will get it
>>>        filled in with something by tomorrow.
>>>
>>> What does everyone think?
>>>
>>> CDR
>>>
>>>
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