[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster => Workshop considerations

C David Rigby c.david.rigby at gmail.com
Fri Mar 20 06:07:31 GMT 2009


On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 13:52 +0800, Ruiwen Chua wrote:
> 2009/3/20 C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>:
> > Skip to the bottom if you've been tracking this conversation where I
> > reply to Heidir!
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:44 +0800, Muhammad Heidir wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:22 +0800, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
> >> wrote:
> >> > Good Morning ,
> >> >
> >> >               Here I would have to agree with David. Every now and then
> >> > some of my friends' laptops would have trouble booting from a usb so to
> >> > minimise the time troubleshooting possible problems , we could break up
> >> > the whole thing into two segments as suggested by David eg lecture and
> >> > tutorial.
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> > Billy
> >> >
> >> > PS : Today is the date for the trial right? Venue and Time? Sorry, I've
> >> > been out-of-touch lately.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:08 +0800, C David Rigby wrote:
> >> > > Good morning all,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 19:22 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
> >> > > > Hi Heidir,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I suggest removing the lines about having participants to bring in
> >> > > > their own live cds. Instead ammend it with:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Participants are required(in bold) to bring their own
> >> > > > thumbdrives/flash disks to fully take advantage of the OS
> >> > > > demonstrations"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Once the poster is finalized (ASAP). let me know. I will mail that out
> >> > > > to the students.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Fucai
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Fucai, this does follow from my original intentions and proposal.
> >> > > However, until we have tested the setup in the lab, I'm not sure that we
> >> > > can actually use the lab computers to write liveUSB images. Even if we
> >> > > can, that does not mean the liveUSB images will work well on the
> >> > > participants own computers.
> >> > >
> >> > > In particular, the BIOS of the particpant's own computer mus be set to
> >> > > boot from USB. My recent model Acer laptop, for example, has FOUR
> >> > > options for USB boot: USB HDD, USB CDROM, USB FDD and USB KEY. It will
> >> > > boot from a USB Flash drive, which we normally call a USB Key, but one
> >> > > must choose the USB HDD option, not the USB KEY option, in order for
> >> > > this to work.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, it is not a trivial task to get that set up properly. Also to the
> >> > > point is that writing a liveUSB image is a time-consuming process. If we
> >> > > do it from the liveCDs, the liveCD systems really cannot do anything
> >> > > else during that time. Ergo, people will be sitting around with little
> >> > > activity for a (30 minutes or so).
> >> > >
> >> > > How about this:
> >> > >
> >> > > Let's divide the workshop into two, one-hour sessions.
> >> > >
> >> > > The first is a generic "Intro to the Desktop" presentation. Demo'd by
> >> > > the presenter, with participants following along on their liveCD-booted
> >> > > PCs. No participant equipment required.
> >> > >
> >> > > The second half is a "Write Ubuntu to Your USB device". More
> >> > > experimental, and participants must bring their own USB flash or HDD of
> >> > > AT LEAST 2 GB capacity and their own portable computer. They need to be
> >> > > warned that the contents of the USB device will be lost, so don't bring
> >> > > one full of critical data that is not backed up somewhere else.
> >> > >
> >> > > Rather than put too much info on the poster, we simply indicate that
> >> > > participants need to check the website for full requirements for the USB
> >> > > installation. Kheng Hui, note that this means we need to expand the
> >> > > registration form to provide a place where the participants can indicate
> >> > > whether or not they intend to participate in the USB install option.
> >> > >
> >> > > Again, I apologize for the uncertainties at this late date, but until we
> >> > > do the check out today at the lab, it will be tough to know exactly what
> >> > > we can offer in that environment and stay within reasonable constraints
> >> > > of time and personnel available.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thoughts, eveyone?
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > CDR
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________
> >> > > > From: Muhammad Heidir <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>
> >> > > > To: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>; Kheng Hui Yeo
> >> > > > <icedwater at gmail.com>
> >> > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:29:18
> >> > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sorry I just managed to check my email now.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. David, could you provide the directions to the Arts Canteen?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2. Fucai, Kheng Hui, is it possible to provide the full text which you
> >> > > > need me to amend?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 3. I am still waiting for linuxNUS logo. If this is not possible, I
> >> > > > will be creating the word with a sub tag below it, "Open Up to Open
> >> > > > Source"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 4. As suggested, I will be highlighting the logos on the poster..
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > > Muhammad Heidir
> >> > > > Yahoo!: dave33bravo | Multiply: doksg
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________
> >> > > > From: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
> >> > > > To: Kheng Hui Yeo <icedwater at gmail.com>
> >> > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:14:14
> >> > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Kheng Hui Yeo <icedwater at gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >         Hello Fucai,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >         Don't worry - linuxNUS can provide about 30. We just need help
> >> > > >         burning
> >> > > >         them all. ;) Though we've probably got that covered, too.
> >> > > >         As for the registration, maybe you could send them to our link
> >> > > >         http://www.linuxnus.org/register/ubuntu ?
> >> > > >         We'll hand you a copy of the name list, don't worry about it.
> >> > > >         Since
> >> > > >         we've pretty much estimated the turnout and given the numbers
> >> > > >         to SOC
> >> > > >         admin, I take it this event is good to go?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >         Test session is tomorrow... the CDs won't all be burned by
> >> > > >         then, but
> >> > > >         we can bring some.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >         See you at COM1 then! As usual, David, Heidir, if you need
> >> > > >         directions,
> >> > > >         drop me a message (91804777). There's really poor reception
> >> > > >         within
> >> > > >         COM1. Ironic, but that's one thing to like about the building,
> >> > > >         it's
> >> > > >         got a sense of humour. I suggest we meet at the arts canteen
> >> > > >         first at
> >> > > >         around 3.50? (I'll be done with a class just before then.)
> >> > > >         Fucai, you
> >> > > >         can go straight of course, since you already know how to get
> >> > > >         there. ;)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >         Best regards,
> >> > > >         Kheng Hui
> >> > > >
> >> > > > OK, I know the way to Arts Canteen. Heidir, advise myself or Keng Hui
> >> > > > if you need directions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I will also bring some CDs, enough for testing at any rate. I will
> >> > > > provide more live CDs once we confirm that booting from live CD works
> >> > > > in the lab. I have a stash of them left over from OSSPAC. Time
> >> > > > permitting, I will also be producing labels for them that will show
> >> > > > our groups' names and website addresses, as applicable.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > However, we have requested real, official Ubuntu live CDs for the
> >> > > > event. We just do not know if they will arrive in time.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Keng Hui, noting that you also responded, you can help replenish my
> >> > > > stock from linuxNUS' supply if you like.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > > CDR
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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> >> >
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> I agree with David and Billy. Booting up and creating the Live USB takes
> >> time. We wouldnt want the session to be a troubleshooting lesson.
> >>
> >> We can have the split the session into 2 or hold another session on it
> >> and other advanced topics.
> >>
> >> Still, do you require any changes on the poster as of now?
> >
> > Given that we need to get the poster out today, but that content of the
> > presentation is still to be determined, let's do this:
> >
> >        1. Indicate that registration for the event is required, and
> >        give the URL for linuxNUS' registration form.
> >
> >        2. In a large font, perhaps italicized font at the bottom, ask
> >        the reader to (without the quotes, of course):
> >
> >                "Please visit our web site at
> >                http://ubuntu.sg/UbuntuWorkshop_NUS for more information
> >                on the event!"
> >
> >        This page is currently "under construction" but I will get it
> >        filled in with something by tomorrow.
> >
> > What does everyone think?
> >
> > CDR
> >
> 
> Will we do the split liveCD/liveUSB sessions? If so, then I'll add the
> field about bringing their own USB sticks to the registration form
> 
> /Ruiwen

Let's wait until I have a chance to test LiveUSB installs in a few
hours. If it seems like I can do them in the lab in a reasonable amount
of time, we can add it to the registration form and it will be on the
page indicated above.

CDR




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