[Ubuntu-SG] Should we "Say No to Piracy"?

Tom Goh tomgohj at gmail.com
Mon Jun 22 20:38:12 BST 2009


suhaw koh wrote:
> Going back ontopic, should we at least engage HIP ?  Or should we sit 
> back and let the pro-business interests dictate the agenda ?

What do you plan to achieve by joining and what will be your plan of
action once joined?

I will keep and open mind and if it is convincing I will support this
initiative.

> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> suhaw
> 
> 
> 
> 2009/6/22 Chen Xiangpeng <xp at xp.sg <mailto:xp at xp.sg>>
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     this is getting offtopic but I think it's a matter of how big an
>     impact your organisation has on business in Singapore. We are too
>     insignificant  to draw the govt's attention for our "detrimental"
>     behavior. Hehe
> 
>     XP
> 
>     On Monday, June 22, 2009, suhaw koh <kohsuhaw at gmail.com
>     <mailto:kohsuhaw at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > Hi Chew,
>      >
>      > 2009/6/22 chewearn <chew4097 at gmail.com <mailto:chew4097 at gmail.com>>
>      >
>      > 2009/6/22 suhaw koh <kohsuhaw at gmail.com <mailto:kohsuhaw at gmail.com>>
>      >
>      >
>      > <edit>
>      > As for the more recent Nov 2008 DL article about Sim Lim raids
>     that Chew quoted, they are specifically about modifying devices to
>     circumvent access control measures, ie modifying the Wii machines to
>     play pirated software.
>      >
>      >
>      > <edit>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > My point is that the Law could be broadly worded, such that the
>     "device" could reasonably be applied to a Personal Computer.
>      > Most laws are broadly worded as they cannot be expected to deal
>     with every minute detail.
>      >
>      >
>      >  In other word, the decss package could be considered illegal in
>     Singapore (just like in US), because it's enable circumvention of
>     the DVD access control.
>      >
>      > While circumvention of DVD access control may be illegal, we also
>     know that there is also an express provision in Section 261C(10)
>     allowing for import or sale of devices whose sole purpose is to
>     control market segmentation for access to films e.g. multi-coded DVD
>     player.
>      >
>      >  My personal opinion: in practice, Singapore is a very
>     pro-business country.  It is very likely that anything we do in this
>     matter that would be detrimental to "business" would get us into
>     trouble.
>      >
>      > In that case, the very existence of TUSG would get us into
>     trouble: Anything we may want to do can be considered as being
>     detrimental to business.
>      > Cheers.
>      >
>      >  suhaw
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