[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Talk at NUS

Sun Feb 22 13:05:49 UTC 2009

Perhaps we get started with standard questions? Come to think of it we
don't have alot of marketing people lol ... Rykel , if you are free
could you give us a hand with it? Thanks.

Possible questions just out of my head

1) Have you heard of Linux? Yes/No
2) Have you used Linux before? Yes/No
3) Have you used Mac OSX before? Yes/No
4) Have you used Firefox web browser before? Yes/No
5) Have you used OpenOffice before? Yes/No
6) Have you used Eclipse IDE before? Yes/No
7) Have you ever programmed using PHP/Perl/Python/Ruby programming
languages before? If yes , pls specify which language(s).
8) Have you ever install/administrate web/sql/ftp/dns server before? If
yes , pls specify which server(s).

We probably need 2 types of surveys ... one for SMU students and another
for NUS student , namely IT crowd and biz crowd. Each with , say , 30-50
yes/no qns and one "give us your thought" essay qn. Any other
suggestions?

regards
Billy

PS: Our test site is ready at http://thinkfunk.com. Drupal CMS + forum +
web based irc ,  + ubuntu-loco theme .. If you would like to crash it ,
or try openID , pls register and drop me a mail. I will be happy to
admin you. In the meantime , Bangky and I will be porting our site over
to new location. Probably , we will have to copy and paste the articles
probably so pls do not post anything for now pls. Thanks

regards
Billy

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 18:20 +0800, C David Rigby wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 17:36 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would be able to mail the survey out to the students. The School Of
> > Computing Students' Club has an IT dept that can help you take care of
> > that. You only got to get me the questions that you want and I will
> > get it done.
> > 
> > Fucai
> > 
> > 
> 
> OK, that's fine with me.
> 
> Regards,
> C David Rigby
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > From: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
> > To: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>
> > Cc: cheefull at nus.edu.sg; hongjingqing at hotmail.com; Team Ubuntu
> > Singapore Mailing List <ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com>; Kheng Hui Yeo
> > <icedwater at gmail.com>; linuxnuscore <coreteam at linuxnus.org>; LAI Chun
> > Yap <chunyap.lai.2006 at sis.smu.edu.sg>
> > Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 2:09:08
> > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Talk at NUS
> > 
> > This one is pretty long - hang with me!
> > 
> > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 22:24 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Just for your info. U got to let me know your plans really soon. Our
> > > acad time table looks something like this :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Reading Week:
> > > Sat 18 Apr - Fri 24 Apr 2009
> > > 
> > > Examination:
> > > Sat 25 Apr - Sat 9 May 2009 (i) & (j)
> > > 
> > > So I think it would be better if we could finalise the plans ASAP
> > and
> > > slowly tweak any tiny details at a later stage. 
> > > 
> > > Ho Fucai
> > > 
> > 
> > Hello Ho Fucai,
> > 
> > Henceforth, I am going to refer to the presentations as the "Ubuntu
> > Workshop". We are in agreement that we would like to have an
> > interactive, hands-on experience for our participants.
> > 
> > I am copying a number of other interested parties on this email. I
> > welcome (indeed, encourage!) all feedback from all of you, as well as
> > others to whom you forward this email. (Please do so!) It saves me the
> > effort of retyping, and I think we can all benefit from widening the
> > conversation at this point. For the immediate topic of the Ubuntu
> > Workshop at NUS, the next paragraph addresses your concerns as quoted
> > above. After that,  I outline our proposal in greater detail.
> > 
> > The gist of our proposal is that Team Ubuntu Singapore, in
> > collaboration
> > with linuxNUS, will give a workshop or series of workshops starting
> > with
> > the first session on Wed, 18 March 2009, starting at 16:00 or 17:00.
> > The
> > planned duration would be a two hour session with a short break in the
> > middle. From my experience, it is likely that a number of participants
> > will continue to chat after the official end of the session. However,
> > we
> > should be ready to turn over the seminar room or lab to other users
> > after two hours. If there is interest on the part of the participants
> > for a more in-depth series of workshops, we could continue at the same
> > times on Wednesdays 25 Mar, 1 and 8 April.
> > 
> > _Development & Delivery of Workshop(s) - Detailed Outline, Tentative_
> > 
> > Team Ubuntu Singapore (TUSG) had a very productive meeting yesterday.
> > The principle topic of discussion was the proposed workshops. Our
> > partner group Open Source Software Society (OS3) at SMU is also
> > interested working together to do something similar at SMU-SIS.
> > Ultimately, we concluded that we could not make a detailed plan for
> > one
> > or more workshops without first determining the requirements and
> > interests of our audiences. So, here is how I would like to proceed:
> > 
> > 1. First, I need to turn several pages of scribbled notes into
> > readable
> > minutes of the TUSG meeting. This will help my group orient.
> > 
> > 2. Within a couple of days, I will produce a "lesson plan" for the
> > presentation(s) that will encompass an exhaustive introduction to the
> > installation and use of Ubuntu. I will circulate this through the
> > usual
> > channels, adding topics as those receiving this email offer their
> > feedback.
> > 
> > 3. From this lesson plan, we can build a survey for potential
> > participants, as you proposed in a prior email. Vincent, we can
> > consider
> > a similar mechanism for SMU-SIS participants. Alternately, we can
> > depend
> > on the members of linuxNUS, NUS School Of Computing Comp Club, and OS3
> > to indicate what would be best for their own schools. In our
> > discussion
> > yesterday, TUSG members noted that the different audiences (business
> > students at SMU, comp sci students at NUS) would probably benefit most
> > from workshops which are customized for a particular group. This is a
> > point also emphasized by Vincent during our conversation at OSSPAC
> > last
> > Tuesday.
> > 
> > 4. If we decide on a survey of potential participants, then please
> > advise how best to deliver it. Left to my own devices, I would use
> > Google Docs to allow those interested to provide their feedback. If I
> > am
> > going to build a survey, it needs to be available to the potential
> > participants no later than the Sun 1 March.
> > 
> > 5. Based on the number of qualified volunteers available from our
> > groups, we will need to set a limit on the number of participants.
> > Ideally, we should have one volunteer for every three or four
> > participants, since we envision a lot of "hands-on" activities at the
> > presentation.
> > 
> > We need to define what we mean by "qualified volunteer". Basically, it
> > should be someone that understands Ubuntu well enough to run it from
> > Live CD, Live USB, install it to hard disk and do basic configuration.
> > These people would be available to assist participants over any "rough
> > spots", even if they are not principle presenters at the workshop.
> > 
> > We should know the number of qualified volunteers available by Sun 1
> > March.
> > 
> > 6. Finally, with the survey results and number of participants in
> > hand,
> > we can plan and practice the workshop(s). Practice is very important
> > to
> > get the pacing and length of the workshop right. Ideally, we would
> > like
> > to do this practice in the same location where the workshop will be
> > held.
> > 
> > Also, other volunteers from our groups that do not want to describe
> > themselves as "qualified" would be extremely useful to us as
> > participants in the practice sessions. After which, they would be
> > qualified!
> > 
> > 
> > Ho Fucai, below I respond to some of your other remarks and
> > information.
> > > 
> > >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > From: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
> > > To: ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg
> > > Cc: cheefull at nus.edu.sg; hongjingqing at hotmail.com; Ubuntu Singapore
> > > Mailing List <ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 6:16:50
> > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Talk at NUS
> > > 
> > > Hello Ho Fucai and friends,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the info. Sounds like you have an excellent venue for
> > > presentations. I will work with my Team on designing our
> > presentation
> > > or
> > > series of presentations. We will be back in touch after our meeting
> > of
> > > 21 February with a concrete proposal.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > C David Rigby
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 00:19 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
> > > > Hi hi,
> > > > 
> > > > To answer your questions.
> > > > 
> > > > - Where at NUS will the presentation be held?
> > > > - What facilities are available (e.g., network connections,
> > > projector,
> > > > lab room, lecture room)?
> > > > It depends on ur requirements actually. I could book seminar rooms
> > > for
> > > > u guys. Even programming labs(but those run on windows). The venue
> > > > will be on School Of Computing grounds. And yah..rooms are
> > subjected
> > > > to availability (shouldn't be a prob!). I could also request for
> > > > students to bring their own laptops for them to try ubuntu out.
> > > > 
> > 
> > The best of these options would be a seminar room with projector, and
> > participants bring their own laptops. If we do not perform
> > installations
> > of Ubuntu to hard disks, then use of a Windows-equipped lab would be
> > adequate. For this environment, we would use only Live CDs, and any
> > installations would be to externally attached USB media.
> > 
> > > > - How much time is allotted for TUSG's presentation?
> > > > The 'unofficial' time for talks in School Of Computing should be
> > > > wednesday from 4pm onwards. 
> > > > 
> > 
> > Two hours from 16:00 is a reasonable length for an afternoon workshop.
> > That leaves plenty of time for people to have dinner and still get a
> > good night's sleep!
> > 
> > > > - What publicity are you doing for the event? Is there something
> > we
> > > > can
> > > > do to help with publicity?
> > > > We would be helping to raise awareness through mass mailing all
> > SOC
> > > > students. They will be registering with us. So we would be able to
> > > > tell u the expected size of the audience.
> > 
> > If you think there will be a really big turn out, then we should do a
> > more traditional, "Power Point slides" style presentation. Perhaps
> > that
> > is how we should run the very first one anyway? Then the most
> > interested, usually a smaller group, could return for later workshops
> > with a more hands-on, interactive approach.
> > 
> > I am completely open to considering something like that if you and
> > your
> > group think it is a better approach. Really, I need feedback here as
> > to
> > what is most appropriate.
> > 
> > Ultimately, though, a smaller group that gets a more intensive
> > experience gains the most from a workshop. It's a trade off between
> > the
> > number of participants and the intensity of the program.
> > 
> > We can certainly do it again at a later date if we cannot work all
> > interested parties into the first workshop(s).
> > 
> > >  It would be nice if you
> > > > could design some electronic posters and etc. so that we could
> > mail
> > > > them out.
> > > > 
> > 
> > I will certainly be able to produce some publicity material for you.
> > PDFs and/or HTML OK?
> > 
> > > > - What sort of presentation are you looking for? We can do a
> > lecture
> > > &
> > > > demonstration, but even better would be a hands-on activity. For
> > > > example, if sufficient time is available we could do an
> > installfest
> > > > event where we actually install Ubuntu on the participants'
> > > computers.
> > > > Being able to do something like that is dependent on time allotted
> > > and
> > > > facilities available.
> > > > 
> > > > We don't mind having a series of talks. We would definitely look
> > > > forward to having a workshop\hands-on session. As I'd mentioned, I
> > > > could inform the students to bring their laptops for the event.
> > > Maybe
> > > > you could suggest having a few topics. I could sendout a
> > mail/survey
> > > > asking students if they are interested in any of the topics.
> > > Muhammad
> > > > Heidir had actually asked if its possible to set up a booth of
> > sorts
> > > > to help people install ubuntu on their systems. I had actually
> > > spoken
> > > > to relevant authorities in school and it is possible for you to
> > use
> > > > the public areas in School Of Computing. Of course, I can only
> > > confirm
> > > > this once I know your plans.
> > > > 
> > 
> > All of this seems to be covered by the discussion in the outline
> > above.
> > At this point, it is pretty fluid. I agree with your point from the
> > beginning of this now very long email - let's get the facility
> > reservations now, then we hammer out the details.
> > 
> > > > - Will TUSG's presentation be part of a larger event that includes
> > > > other
> > > > groups?
> > > > Nope! It will not. Unless you are interested in bringing in other
> > > > open-source partners. We may be having talks by other parties.
> > > > However, those events would be isolated from yours.
> > > > 
> > 
> > Just so. I have recently been in touch with Kheng Hui Yeo of linuxNUS.
> > They have already conducted an Ubuntu 8.10 installfest activity.
> > Working
> > with them will help us all leverage our experience for a better
> > workshop.
> > 
> > > > Hope my informal reply answer most of your questions.
> > > > 
> > > > Ho Fucai
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes - this is a good start. I look forward to working with everyone on
> > this project.
> > 
> > Regards
> > C David Rigby
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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