[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu SG logo

Mon Sep 1 04:29:55 UTC 2008

Hi XP,

Maybe because I'm not a designer, that's why I didn't get your joke. I apologize for my ignorance.

Personally, the logo looks great and has an impact. Compared to other LoCo's, ours definitely stand out. We'll wait for the target date for any changes. Meanwhile, keep on designing!

Sorry and thank you.

Heidir

----- Original Message ----
From: Chen Xiangpeng <xp at xp.sg>
To: Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: Ubuntu Singapore Mailing List <ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 11:59:03
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu SG logo

Hi,

Sorry to ask, what flame? If it's regarding the SVG/PNG issue, I am just making a gfx designer joke(and it's not targeted at you heidir :). If you are offended, I offer my unreserved apology.

I understand that the target date is 8th Sept from the first mail, which is why I am not in a hurry :) So Heidir is ok with the design. How about Billy?

XP

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

Hi,

Well, the design is not yet finalised. I was just asking, will you be releasing the SVG? No need to flame.

Anyway, if you have any other design in mind, feel free to add. Having a different design for different purposes is better than having a 1 boring design. (I dont mean to say your design is boring).

The target finalisation date is set for 8th September 2008. No rush.

Thanks for contributing the logo design. Its a great design.

Heidir

Chen Xiangpeng <xp at xp.sg> wrote:
Hi,

The source file of the logo is SVG(who design logos in bitmaps? :P) 

For the same reason you release the drafts of your brochures, I am posting versions of the logo(in PNG) up (albeit only in the mailing list) for feedback/approval. I am being cautious about the release of the svg is because I want make sure that everyone participating in this project will use the same SVG whether they are in charge of the brochures, posters, forms or website. 

And to share knowledge with everyone here, work on the logo does not end with just the basic design. Once this design is done, I will have to go create more branding items, such as a logo with the "ubuntu-sg" tag. A black and white logo for the black/white printing will need to be created too. If you look at the ubuntu logo wiki, you'll realised that they have a lot of versions of the same logo, each with a specific purpose, be it for print or web. The very thing that sets ubuntu apart from other distros is their strong branding and community, I believe this is something we should follow. Of course, if this is not the direction we're taking, I'm happy just contributing one logo :)

If you guys are ok with my final design, I will upload the SVG by tonight since i am in office now.

XP

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

Hi,

Our web is not ready. Forums not yet tested. Wiki not suitable for now. The only place where it is suitable is our web, ubuntu.sg for. Yes its not good to post, time is not on our side. We need to quickly upload to a central location where everyone can easily view.

Once this event is behind us, then we can opt for a better CMS-enabled site with project management.

In the mean time, we have to use what is available, easy and fast. Besides, having people view the design makes more exposure and interesting. For past years, there are very little updates, do u think people even visit? With these activity, at least we keep our web content changing.

As for the logo, why PNG file? SVG is better for this purpose as the image won't be distorted when enlarged. Hope you could take this into consideration.

Best regards,

Heidir

Chen Xiangpeng <xp at xp.sg> wrote:
Hi,

Here's my final design in PNG format, in case u guys are looking for it. I post it up on ubuntu.sg once the design is ok-ed and we settle on the licensing issue.

http://xp.sg/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lion.png

Anyway, I suggest that we avoid posting our drafts on the front page of ubuntu.sg. I think the mailing list/wiki/forums is good enough for discussions on our work in progress, and only the final version should be posted up on ubuntu.sg. My rationale for this is that ubuntu.sg is more of a public site where people come for information on the loco team and we might do better by avoiding cluttering the site with posts which are more of loco team work discussion nature.

XP

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Muhammad Heidir <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

Hi,

The brochures and posters that I got for the team are all licensed under Creative Commons. They are obtained from Ubuntu-UK, Ubuntu-ID and Hannes Pasqualini

In the case of our logo, it is better if we restrict it. Since it is about our trademark and organization identity, we should protect it. I'm not sure about legal stuff, in my opinion, its use is not restricted, but any modification is not allowed.

And to add to this point, if the logo is finalised and given thumbs up by our community, we should verify any issues with Ubuntu(Canonical).  Either Billy or Chew will submit to them for processing.

These are my personal opinions. What do the rest of the community think?

Regards,
Heidir

On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 23:08 +0800, Chen Xiangpeng wrote: 
Hi,

I am about to release the logo's SVG out into the wild, but before I do it, I need to know what license we(the loco team members) gonna release it in. 

Are we gonna release it under CC?

The logo is more or less finalised, with a png of it uploaded here:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sg-team

If you are bored, you can read the story of the design process here:

http://xp.sg/2008/08/30/designing-ubuntu-singapores-logo/

XP

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