[Ubuntu-SG] TUSG - Meeting 2 - 22 August 2008

Thu Aug 21 12:46:06 UTC 2008

Hi suhaw,

You could have emailed me informing that you couldn't contribute to Ubuntu.sg. Seem to me that Billy is busy with something, so he is not able to look after all issue. I hope you understand. You can always look for me or email me. I am online everyday. I will look into your account and promote to Author like I did for Chew when he emailed me.

In the last meeting, we had a discussion about our motive. Yes, this event tempts us. We should take advantage of it. That is why I called for a meeting to discuss about Software Freedom Day and our mission. It is important for you to understand that this was our first meeting, and we still had to get to know each other. Ubuntu.sg has been very lifeless till now. Let's not go into deeper issues yet. The main issue at hand now is discuss our purpose for our participation and and take part in this activity which is provided for us. This could be our first event together and the first milestone. Sure there'll be hiccups here and there, but we can work as a team.

Since nobody is discussing about our mission, let me take the first step in laying down the foundation.

Team Ubuntu Singapore Mission - Promote the use of Ubuntu to the consumer

Reason behind this mission: Red Hat and Novell are enterprise centric distributors. Ubuntu is more associated for consumer. LUGS and SLMG are more into general Linux stuffs. I see that there is a gap in the consumer sector. It is best that we seal the gap and promote Ubuntu to the consumer as an alternative.

Ways to capture the consumer market
1) Consumer will look at the interface and compare between Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac OSX. This is where Ubuntu is able to accomodate both. It has a highly configurable desktop to look like either. Why? Not because Ubuntu does not have its own identity, but will appeal more to the consumer because of catchy interface and similarities.

2) Demonstrate the alternative to Windows and Mac OSX applications. Most notably Adobe Photoshop, Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, Mozilla Firefox and Outlook. Show them that all these expensive software is available for free using Open Source Software as an alternative.

3) Sell Ubuntu mechandise to the consumer. Purpose? The more Ubuntu T-Shirts and Caps on the streets, the more people will notice and be interested to know what Ubuntu is, what it does and its appeal.

Sure we can go on and on debating on the mailing-list. I lay down my cards for you. I believe we could achieve something. I'm doing all I can to help this flailing community.

Feel free to add on to the mission, but what is important is action.

Best Regards,
Heidir

----- Original Message ----
From: suhaw koh <kohsuhaw at gmail.com>
To: ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2008 20:04:24
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] TUSG - Meeting 2 - 22 August 2008

Sorry, looks like you gotta count me out this time round.  I won't be able to meet up on any of the 3 proposed days.

Permit me to express my opinion about SFD and the mission in this email.

Manning a booth at SFD is tempting, no doubt.  But I ask what is the purpose of it and what do we hope to achieve.  Sure it will give the team some publicity, but what do you want people to know about the team ?  If we still don't know what we want, what is the point of publicity ?

After we are more certain of what we want to do, I am sure there are many opportunities to profile ourselves.  At least at that time, we will have something of interest to say.  For SFD, all we can say is hi we are here, but don't ask us what we do or what we want.

As for giving out giving out CD-ROMs, anybody can do that.  We can do it in our individual capacities, no need to involve the team.

Imho, it is important for the team to project a consistent image.  We cannot afford to spread ourselves too thinly.  We need to pin down what we want to achieve and then be focussed about getting that done.  Let's choose one or two projects which we can do and then put our minds to getting them done well.

If we blindly charge at anything interesting that comes our way, we are then no better than the spanish bull charging at the swirling metador's red cape.

At our meeting last Friday, we talked about developing a Singapore-centric online linux resource and using WordPress to get the discussion going.  I have registered for the blogsite some time ago and till today, I still cannot post on it.  If we cannot get such a simple thing going, why are we getting ourselves distracted ?

Cheers.

suhaw

2008/8/21 Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>

I think we should discuss about our mission first. This will help us during our participation for SFD. Many people will likely ask who are we, what do we do and what we hope to achieve. A short and convincing answer will be good.

Chew, could you try contact Canonical? Tell them about this event, the first in Singapore and Red Hat and Novell are taking part. Hopefully Canonical would like to participate and we will be happy to present for them.

Meeting Update:
Friday = 1
Sunday = 1
Tuesday = 1

Meeting Agenda:
1) Software Freedom Day Singapore 2008 Discussion and Mission

We need more people to be present for the meeting and discuss about this event.

Regards,
Heidir

----- Original Message ----
From: Chew EK <chew4097 at gmail.com>
To: ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:19:44
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] TUSG - Meeting 2 - 22 August 2008

I can't make it tomorrow.  Sunday or Tuesday are ok.

With the Software Freedom Day so close and urgent, I think we should discuss this first.  We can discuss about the long term mission of Team Ubuntu Singapore some other time.

Anyone contacting Canonical? At the very least we need to get permission to use the Ubuntu trademark for the event.  To make publicity banners, poster, merchandise, etc need money.  If no sponsorship is possible, we could think about selling some stuffs to recoup back the costs.

Regards
Chew

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

We can have it tomorrow if the rest can make it.

Change Date: 22th August 2008 - 1900hrs

Please inform me if there are changes.

Heidir

----- Original Message ----
From: John Thng <johnthng83 at gmail.com>
To: Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2008 16:42:06
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] Software Freedom Day Singapore 2008

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Muhammad Heidir Abd M <dave33bravo at yahoo..com.sg> wrote:

Hi,

Can we have the meeting sometime this weekend or a weekday next week?

Please choose either one:
1. Sunday - 24th August 2008
    Time: 1900hrs

2. Tuesday - 26th August 2008
    Time: 1900hrs

Location: Raffles City - Starbucks (the same place we had our first meeting)

I'll be open to change the date and time if those 2 are occupied.

Meeting Agenda:
1) Team Ubuntu Singapore Mission, Philosophy and Vision tie down
2) Software Freedom Day Singapore 2008 Discussion

Anybody can attend this meeting, if you have any ideas, contributions or suggestions. All are welcome.

Thank you.

Heidir

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