[Ubuntu-SG] Trademark issue -> Back!
Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
billy at ubuntu.sg
Wed Aug 20 01:09:47 UTC 2008
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 08:41 +0800, Nicholas Ng wrote:
> Yeah. Ubuntu SG must first be the official LoCo team in order to have
> the free hosting from Canonical.
>
> Btw, I would like to inform you that the ubuntu.sg domain may raised
> [1] trademark issue with Canonical as stated in their trademark
> policy. I raised this up is because [2] Ubuntu MY also facing the same
> problem by having ubuntu.com.my (also ubuntu.org.my) as their main
> domain. I did e-mail the issue to Canonical <trademarks at ubuntu.com>
> and their feedback is to get our LoCo team official. They will
> probably won't sue us except if we breach their policy or code of
> conduct.
Ubuntu.com.my looks ... like the actual ubuntu.com page ... is it done
by Canonical or by Ubuntu Malaysia , If I were canonical , I would ask
them to bring it down. It would probably be confused with the main
ubuntu website. Thats where most of the trademark issues comes in.
Also pls take note that ubuntu.com.my is a commercial cc-tld for .my.
Ubuntu.sg is a generic cc-tld for Singapore since there is also .com.sg.
So I doubt Canonical will come after us. If anyone thinks ubuntu.sg is a
company with a wordpress blog then I have a bridge to sell them.
Of course we would like to be a approved team and are trying hard.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
Resources - you should have a mailing list set up, IRC channel on
Freenode and have some wiki pages set up on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/.
More details on setting these resources up can be found in
LoCoTeamHowto.
We got irc channel but nobody uses.
* Membership - Do you have members in your group? Are the mailing list
and IRC channel resources active?
Mailing list yes , IRC no
* Roadmap - Do you have an idea of what you want to achieve and which
projects the group should work on?
Sort of. We havn't started any major projects. SFD is one we are going
for this year. In fact , we just had a first meeting not so long ago.
* Experience - What have you done so far? Have you done any advocacy,
translations, exhibitions, support or other activities? We recommend
you have done at least three activities before you apply for
approval.
Nope , Nope and Nope. SFD08 will be the first one.
As for ubuntu-sg.org , I noticed it has been registered by canonical so
once we get the approval , we should get it.
regards
billy
>
> And for your info, you also can request for free domain ubuntu-sg.org,
> most of LoCo teams are using this standard ubuntu-<countrycode>.org
> for their LoCo site.
>
> Well, just some pre-cautions to all of us. :-)
>
> [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
> [2] http://ubuntu.com.my/ | http://ubuntu.org.my/
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nicholas Ng
> <nbliang at ubuntu.com>
> Ubuntu Member
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
> <billy at ubuntu.sg> wrote:
> > Terms and Conditions:
> >
> > * To qualify for sponsored website or server space a team must be
> > officially recognised as an approved Ubuntu LoCoTeam (see the
> > first table on the LoCoTeamList page)
> >
> >
> > The first of the terms and conditions says it all ... We can't get one
> > for now. Perhaps when we get large enough.
> >
> > regards
> > billy
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 19:49 +0800, Nicholas Ng wrote:
> >> Actually Canonical do provide sponsorship to host LoCo website. You
> >> can refer to this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting
> >>
> >> Hope this help. :-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Nicholas Ng
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
> >> <billy at ubuntu.sg> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 18:00 +0800, Chew EK wrote:
> >> >> hi Billy
> >> >> Looking at the stats, there were only a few hundreds hits this month
> >> >> with about 5MB traffic. This is really not much and I doubt was the
> >> >> reason the site was taken offline. The hosting provider really is
> >> >> very bad if it don't allow such small amount of traffic.
> >> >
> >> > *nods* *nods* *nods*
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Instead, it could be CPU load that caused the problem. For a while, I
> >> >> did some of research because I was having problem accessing my site.
> >> >> There were a few complaints I read around the web, where cheap hosting
> >> >> provider will cut out a site without prior notice whenever they see
> >> >> spike in the server CPU load.
> >> >
> >> > Yes , probably the CPU load. I did request for the CPU load but nothing
> >> > come back.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Ultimately, this was not the problem I faced, but it could be what
> >> >> happened to ubuntu.sg. Unfortunately, you probably can't see the
> >> >> server CPU load, if the site is under shared hosting.
> >> >>
> >> >> You could try optimizing the site. E.g. reducing size of images
> >> >> helped a lot for my site, including offloading them from the database
> >> >> (I put all my images on a static sub-domain).
> >> >
> >> > But ubuntu.sg has well ... a screenshot of a desktop and if thats what
> >> > caused the server load to spike then I don't know what to say. I got no
> >> > notice or proof that Ubuntu.sg caused anything. All I got was a list of
> >> > IPs from a log file ... which will fool most people I suppose.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Another thing I did was install WP supercache. It's a pain to set-up,
> >> >> but helped to reduce database accesses and php loading by creating
> >> >> cache of static pages.
> >> >
> >> > That would help but I am not going to stay with a provider that doesn't
> >> > care about its customers in any case. My one year contract with them
> >> > ends next April so we got about 8 months or so. Too bad canonical has no
> >> > office here if not we can ask for sponsorship.
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> > billy
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Chew
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
> >> >> <billy at ubuntu.sg> wrote:
> >> >> Well we are back .... I doubt this will be the last time it
> >> >> happens
> >> >> though so we are going to have to back in case it happens
> >> >> again .. I
> >> >> dread going around asking answers from customer relationship
> >> >> officers ...
> >> >>
> >> >> I have attached the webstats from ubuntu.sg ... I see a lot of
> >> >> US
> >> >> sites , I wonder why... Anyway here are some of the
> >> >> suggestions that I
> >> >> got from you guys ..
> >> >>
> >> >> siteground.com from Suhaw
> >> >> http://www.surpasshosting.com/ from Kelvin
> >> >> slicehost.com also from Kelvin <--- pretty cheap vps I must
> >> >> say
> >> >>
> >> >> Again , I would like to apologise to everyone for this. I
> >> >> didn't expect
> >> >> us to have this much hits or my host to be so rash and
> >> >> inconsiderate
> >> >> with their customer sites. I was given no warnings before
> >> >> hand. I will
> >> >> definitely not be renewing their contract after this year.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was thinking of printing ubuntu.sg on the t-shirt for sfd
> >> >> but now I am
> >> >> having a second thought... :P Anyway , glad to be back..
> >> >>
> >> >> regards
> >> >> billy
> >> >>
> >> >>
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