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The Ubuntu bug already has a fair amount of heat but the priority is low, any way of getting that increased? It seems that the software source has been around for a while, is a newer variant of what Ubuntu already uses and has been used by other distributions for some time. I would think that would mean it's pretty safe to implement.</p> <p style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">To answer your question - OpenSUSE 13.2 (which is really old at this point). "man 5 crontab" refers to MAILFROM and indicates the Author is "<span style="font-size:12pt">Paul Vixie ⟨<a href="mailto:vixie@isc.org" target="_blank">vixie@isc.org</a>⟩" with the last line of the file reading "cronie 2012-11-22 CRONTAB(5)". Looks like it was introduced at that version because 13.1 has the 2010 version.</span></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div> <div style="font-size:small">vixie-cron is what everybody is/was using for quite some time, and all distros patched it heavily. Upstream is gone, so it's effectively abandoned. Suse was using it as well, but migrated to cronie. Found this page about that migration: <a href="https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Cron_replace" target="_blank">https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Cron_replace</a></div> <div style="font-size:small"><br> </div> <div style="font-size:small">cronie exists in debian experimental, but apparently abandoned (<a href="https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cronie" target="_blank">https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cronie</a>). It doesn't exist in Ubuntu. Upstream is Fedora, at <a href="https://github.com/cronie-crond/cronie" target="_blank">https://github.com/cronie-crond/cronie</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>FWIW there are plans to move to cronie in Debian in bullseye: <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/07/msg00100.html">https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/07/msg00100.html</a></div> <div><br> </div> <div>Cheers,</div> <div>mwh</div> <div> </div> <blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="x_gmail_quote"> <div> <div style="font-size:small">I also found some documentation showing how to use systemd timers as a replacement. It's not a direct replacement, though:</div> </div> <div style="font-size:small">- doesn't parse crontabs, has its own mechanism</div> <div style="font-size:small">- doesn't send out email by default, one needs to use Onfailure and point it at a script that will send out the email</div> <div style="font-size:small"><br> </div> <div style="font-size:small">We could check the patch that implemented MAILFROM and adopt it. I'm not sure if suse used the same one attached to the bug I mentioned before.</div> </div> </div> -- <br> ubuntu-server mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server</a><br> More info: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam</a></blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>