<div dir="ltr">I'm more on your side of the fence than the developer side. While I've been saddled with some real work projects that haven't allowed me time to do anything Ubuntu server related in the past 6 months, when i did have time, I found the developers helpful. That being said, I've found this team is more of a server contribution team than a server support team. dan <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Michael Hipp <<a href="mailto:Michael@hipp.com">Michael@hipp.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I know nothing about the makeup or organization of the server team (or any of Ubuntu for that matter). Laying awake last night retracing my unfortunate flame war with Soren, I began to ponder root causes. And I came up with an answer. Even though it may be wrong. So I'm hoping to gain some information and understanding by asking an odd question... What's the makeup of the Ubuntu server team? More specifically, does it include influential representation from people (sorta like me) who are attempting to scrape out a living deploying Ubuntu on bottom-of-the-barrel lowest low-end hardware, installing those machines in deplorable conditions, and with nothing remotely resembling an I/T infrastructure (facilities or people) to support the server? The above isn't intended to form the basis of an accusation or complaint. I just sense a big difficult-to-cross gulf between folks who, for example, have the ability to remotely manipulate a server that isn't even running versus those of us out here in the hillbilly backwater who think that a high end server is one with a CD-ROM drive. (I can elaborate but am trying to avoid rambling.) Can someone give me a thumbnail of the makeup and organization of the server team? Thanks, Michael Hipp "After you cross the creek, turn at the first gate, drive past the hay barn and park under the big sweetgum tree. Your server will be ready as soon as I've fixed the downed fences over in the northwest corner." -- ubuntu-server mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server</a> More info: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam</a> </blockquote></div> </div>