<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kristian Erik Hermansen</b> <<a href="mailto:kristian.hermansen@gmail.com">kristian.hermansen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In reverse chronological order...<br><br>... or to sum up in short:<br>* Based in UK (so no US hours?)<br>* Don't accept our corporate American Express (AMEX)<br>* Credit Card verification failed (on a valid card)<br>
* Still charged the invalid card twice and credit card company called<br>to notify us of possible fraud!<br>* Canonical's web application accepting the data could be misbehaving<br>* After all this, we had to fill out the order by hand and fax the
<br>paperwork back to a UK fax number (no US number available)<br><br>Now this doesn't change my opinion of Ubuntu in any way</blockquote><div><br><br>Yikes, what will!<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
, but it does<br>make me wonder just how many people have actually ordered support from<br>Canonical. Most new customers could be turned off by such an<br>experience...<br><br><br><snip><br>From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <
<a href="mailto:michelle@canonical.com">michelle@canonical.com</a>><br>To: Kristian Hermansen <<a href="mailto:khermansen@ign.com">khermansen@ign.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: Your information request for Ubuntu Desktop Support
<br>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 04:03:45 -0700<br><br><br>HI Kristian,<br>I am sorry that you have experienced problems purchasing support from<br>our online store. I will pass these problems on.<br><br>If you let me know what sort of support you are looking to purchase, I
<br>will send you an order form and process your order from here.<br>Kind regards,<br>Michelle<br><br>Kristian Hermansen wrote:<br>><br>> That is unfortunate...<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Birol Ertekin<br>> To: Kristian Hermansen; 'Michelle Surtees-Myers' <<a href="mailto:michelle@canonical.com">michelle@canonical.com</a>><br>> Sent: Thu Oct 04 20:42:41 2007<br>> Subject: RE: Your information request for Ubuntu Desktop Support
<br>><br>> The merchant is not accepting Amex, so I tried my personal Mastercard<br>> but the payment system is not accepting the MC:<br>><br>> This transaction was not authorised by your card issuer. This<br>
> authorisation request was denied as further identity checks cannot be<br>> carried out on an internet transaction. You may wish to try another card.<br>><br>> This may be due to the fact that the e-commerce system is UK based.
<br>><br>> Also it was difficult to pass the 'I read and confirm the service<br>> agreement' part. It kept unchecking the box automatically, and after<br>> trying it maybe 20 times, it worked.<br>><br>
> - Birol<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Kristian Hermansen<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:47 PM<br>> To: Michelle Surtees-Myers<br>> Cc: Birol Ertekin<br>> Subject: RE: Your information request for Ubuntu Desktop Support
<br>><br>> Hi!<br>><br>> Birol, my boss, will be putting in the request for me. Can you give<br>> him the instructions on how to make payment and whatever else needs to<br>> be done? Thanks :-)<br>>
<br>> --<br>> Kristian Erik Hermansen<br>> Information Security Engineer<br>> FOX Interactive Media / IGN<br>> 8000 Marina Blvd.<br>> Brisbane, CA 94005<br>> Mobile: (415) 509-1293<br>> Office: (415) 508-2252
<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Michelle Surtees-Myers [mailto:<a href="mailto:michelle@canonical.com">michelle@canonical.com</a>]<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:05 AM<br>> To: Kristian Hermansen
<br>> Subject: Re: Your information request for Ubuntu Desktop Support<br>><br>> Dear Kristian,<br>><br>> Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu and support services from<br>> Canonical. We are replying to the request you sent via our web site:
<br>><br>> = Your original request =<br>> Hi :-)<br>><br>> I am interested in speaking with an expert about advanced Desktop<br>> support. I am an active open-source contributor (I spoke at Ubuntu<br>> Live...among other things) and would like to learn about possibilities
<br>> for support from Canonical. I have at least one Desktop machine here<br>> at FOX that I would like to request for support through Canonical.<br>> However, I want to find out what I am getting first!<br>>
<br>> Basically, the real reason is that I have a few Enterprise devices<br>> that I may not want to investigate setting up myself sometime. And<br>> also, I assume that based on the support requests, you would<br>
> prioritize solutions for paying customers, and then all non-paying<br>> Ubuntu users can benefit from such enhancements. That is what I am<br>> interested in -- helping make Ubuntu better for everyone :-) Let me
<br>> know if my analysis seems correct and this is the type of service you<br>> offer...thanks!<br>> ================<br>><br>> Our support generally covers installation, configuration,<br>> administration and management of Ubuntu on the desktop. So we'll
<br>> willingly try and help with an issue where you've tried to install or<br>> set-up Ubuntu on a particular machine. It depends what you mean by<br>> "Enterprise devices" because we won't go out and research whether
<br>> Ubuntu will work with a particular device such as a mobile phone.<br>><br>> If you had a wider enterprise deployment then this would come under<br>> the scenario of deployment consulting or engineering consulting.
<br>><br>> As you mention one of the benefits of Ubuntu support is that we'll<br>> prioritise the resolution and development of bug fixes or feature<br>> fixes for commercial customers. Individual resolutions will make
<br>> their way into the upstream Ubuntu release so that all users (and the<br>> support customer in the future) all benefit. So if you have a HP<br>> workstation and Ubuntu doesn't work correctly with the hard-drive then
<br>> this will be prioritised over a community member who has a similar issue.<br>><br>> Our services agreement covers installation, configuration and<br>> generally getting things working on your desktop environment. It also
<br>> covers support for most packages in the main repository. In general,<br>> we will go out of our way to help you solve the problems you might<br>> encounter when installing and running Ubuntu.<br>><br>> The duration of the contract is for one (1) year. During that year,
<br>> you are entitled to ten (10) support cases. A case, also called an<br>> incident, is a problem that you encounter. In order to solve a<br>> problem, we might exchange several phone calls or emails. However,
<br>> these will only consume a single case during the span of these exchanges.<br>><br>> Two Desktop Support options are available to you:<br>><br>> Standard desktop 9x5:<br>> * Availability: 9AM to 5PM in your timezone, weekdays only.
<br>> * Initial response time: 4 hrs for cases raised by phone; 48 hrs for<br>> those raised via our customer web portal.<br>> * Price: $250 per desktop.<br>><br>> Complete desktop 24x7:<br>> * Availability: 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
<br>> * Initial response time: 2 hrs for cases raised by phone, 24 hrs for<br>> those raised via our customer web portal.<br>> * Price: $900 per desktop.<br>><br>> Included within support is Landscape, our Web-based Systems Management
<br>> service, is now provided as an intrinsic part of Canonical's support<br>> services. Landscape is specifically designed to help in management and<br>> support of desktop, laptop and server deployments using a single
<br>> integrated web interface. Some of the functionality also enables you<br>> to manage groups of machines as easily as if you were managing a<br>> single machine. For more information, please see our web site:
<br>> <a href="http://canonical.com/landscape">http://canonical.com/landscape</a>. All machines covered by a Canonical<br>> support contract have the opportunity to register for the Landscape<br>> service.<br>>
<br>> In order to obtain a Support services agreement from us, please reply<br>> to this email with the following information:<br>><br>> * Type of support contract required: (9x5 or 24x7)<br>><br>> We would also like to confirm that we have the correct contact
<br>> information for you:<br>><br>> * Full name of main contact: Kristian Hermansen<br>> * Email address of main contact: <a href="mailto:khermansen@ign.com">khermansen@ign.com</a><br>> * Company: FOX Interactive Media
<br>><br>> * Address:<br>> 8000 Marina Blvd.<br>> Brisbane, CA 94005<br>> USA<br>> * Phone number: 415 508 2252<br>> * Fax number:<br>> * Website: <a href="http://www.fox.com">http://www.fox.com</a>
<br>><br>> Important:<br>> Cases can only be submitted by contact persons recognized by our<br>> system. If you would like to add contacts to your account please<br>> provide us with the following information for each:
<br>><br>> Name<br>> Email address<br>> Telephone number<br>><br>> Support can now also be purchased via our online store. To buy click<br>> here: <a href="https://shop.canonical.com">https://shop.canonical.com
</a>.<br>><br>> If you have further questions, feel free to write or call us directly<br>> at +44 207 630 2474.<br>><br>> Thanks for considering us for support, we look forward to working<br>> together!<br>
><br>> Regards,<br>><br>><br>><br>> No virus found in this incoming message.<br>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date:<br>> 10/4/2007 5:03 PM
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<br><br>--<br>Kind regards<br><br>Michelle Surtees-Myers<br>Canonical UK Ltd<br>Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630 2401<br><br>Ubuntu - Linux for human beings<br></snip><br>--<br>Kristian Erik Hermansen<br><br>
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