New Ubuntu Server Guide Live

Doug Smythies dsmythies at telus.net
Thu Nov 21 15:07:46 UTC 2019


On 2019.11.20 23:00 Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:11 AM Doug Smythies <dsmythies at telus.net> wrote:
>> On 2019.11.19 09:32 Joshua Powers wrote:
>>
>>> The new official home for the Ubuntu Server Guide is now live:
>>>
>>> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs
>>>
>>> On the bottom of each server guide page is a link to the specific
>>> Discourse page that contains the raw content. Users can now more easily
>>> make suggestions, point out errors, and fix bugs on pages. If a
>>> discourse page is updated the change is reflected within seconds on
>>> ubuntu.com.
>>>
>>
>> What is the list of people that have sufficient rights to cause
>> an update to the published web pages?
>>
>> I ask because this is a very restricted list [1] for help.ubuntu.com,
>> on purpose. Additionally, I almost always publish on my own web server
>> first, to check, and have others (typically Gunnar) check before going live.
>>
>> I worry about the potential for abuse, while at the same time welcome the ease
>> of use.
>>
>> Actually, I only see the edit button available me for some pages. Why is that?
>>
>>> Please continue to help revise the server guide with the latest
>>> information as we prepare for the Focal Fossa release!
>>>
>>> A PDF of the current version is coming soon.
>>
>> Great.
>>
>> One of the reasons we were anxious to see the compiled and
>> published web pages was so that we could see if those internal
>> links that were "???" would get sorted out. They don't, so
>> that'll have to be figured out. Example:
>> The first paragraph of [2] the ??? is supposed to say this:
>> "Remote Administration"
>> And the link is supposed to be to ... huh? ...
>> Oh, that chapter cover section is gone. Oh!, maybe
>> that is why the link is busted (it just so happened
>> to be the first one I tried).
>>
>> O.K. So I went to look at the edit I did under the virt-install page,
>> But it is gone. What the hell? I see some recent edits deleting
>> very very important stuff. Why? I wrote that stuff and want it to stay.
>
> HI Doug,
> I can't answer the others but this one about virt-install I can.
> In the context of being the libvirt page it was overflowing and hard
> to find actual libvirt centric information.
>
> First of all I have to admit that I do not like virt-inst too much
> (but that is my personal problem I guess).
> virt-install is only in universe but people tend to rely on it (too
> much), causes continuous problems (silly/odd bug reports often come
> from this area), and tends to get people not realizing the much more
> consumable cloud images.
> But nevertheless what you are missing isn't gone forever anyway.

O.K. thanks for explaining.
For my part of it, the reason I like virt-install is because
it is a command line tool, and therefore good for a server, with no GUI.
I only use Ubuntu linux for servers.
(I do have desktop Ubuntu on some old computers and VMs, but just to help,
mainly Gunnar, with the desktop help publications at help.ubuntu.com)
Myself I have no interest in cloud and uvtool stuff.

> I have a set of further todos here to go further in this cycles doc
> update, that will probably:
> - split out virtinst/virt-clone to an extra page (as it is an
> alternative to uvtool / multipass that have extra pages as well)
>  - There I plan to bring back that content that you are missing atm

O.K. thanks for explaining.

> - Split virt-manager / virt-viewer to their own page as well (then it
> might have space for some screenshots)

These require a GUI.
Be careful with adding screenshots. Our doc-team experience has been that
they become a maintenance nightmare, requiring per cycle updating.
 
> - For the libvirt page itself there are other topics that much more
> make sense there (not sure how much of them I'll get covered)
>  - apparmor integration in libvirt and customizing it
>  - huge page usage through libvirt
>  - some extra content on passthrough

Extra passthrough content would be good. I see a lot of questions
about it on askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.

>  - ... (those are aligned to questions/bug/mistakes) that I've seen
> over the last years

Thank for your contributions, past and present, to the serverguide.

... Doug





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