Updated cron?

Michael Hudson-Doyle michael.hudson at canonical.com
Tue Aug 13 11:29:50 UTC 2019

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 08:55, Andreas Hasenack <andreas at canonical.com>

> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 4:41 PM Leroy Tennison <leroy at datavoiceint.com>
> wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply, I wasn't aware that bug requests had already been
>> submitted.  The Ubuntu bug already has a fair amount of heat but the
>> priority is low, any way of getting that increased?  It seems that the
>> software source has been around for a while, is a newer variant of what
>> Ubuntu already uses and has been used by other distributions for some
>> time.  I would think that would mean it's pretty safe to implement.
>> To answer your question - OpenSUSE 13.2 (which is really old at this
>> point).  "man 5 crontab" refers to MAILFROM and indicates the Author is "Paul
>> Vixie ⟨vixie at isc.org⟩" with the last line of the file reading "cronie
>>  2012-11-22  CRONTAB(5)".  Looks like it was introduced at that version
>> because 13.1 has the 2010 version.
> vixie-cron is what everybody is/was using for quite some time, and all
> distros patched it heavily. Upstream is gone, so it's effectively
> abandoned. Suse was using it as well, but migrated to cronie. Found this
> page about that migration: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Cron_replace
> cronie exists in debian experimental, but apparently abandoned (
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cronie). It doesn't exist in Ubuntu.
> Upstream is Fedora, at https://github.com/cronie-crond/cronie

FWIW there are plans to move to cronie in Debian in bullseye:


> I also found some documentation showing how to use systemd timers as a
> replacement. It's not a direct replacement, though:
> - doesn't parse crontabs, has its own mechanism
> - doesn't send out email by default, one needs to use Onfailure and point
> it at a script that will send out the email
> We could check the patch that implemented MAILFROM and adopt it. I'm not
> sure if suse used the same one attached to the bug I mentioned before.
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