Potential Server Seed impact for 14.04: removal of OpenJDK/Tomcat7 from Ubuntu main

[Simon Deziel]

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Hi James,

On 14-01-21 01:16 PM, James Page wrote:
> Next - the foundations team have been reviewing whether we should
> continue to provide OpenJDK as the default Java implementation in
> Ubuntu; this package is quite a resource drain on both the foundations
> and security teams from a SRU perspective so demotion of openjdk7 to
> universe is being considered.

I understand the pressure it puts on the team resources but moving
openjdk7 to universe would (IMHO) essentially kill Java on Ubuntu.

Here, we have a policy to stick to packages from main only as you guys
provide real good support on those!

> Most Java-ish things in main can be built using gcj; however Tomcat7
> is not going to work with gcj so would end up being demoted as well.
> 
> What do people think to this plan?  Are OpenJDK and Tomcat7 important
> packages for Ubuntu users?

I advocate for OpenJDK because I know it will be supported well.

> Will not having a well supported OpenJDK
> implementation in Ubuntu main discourage people from using Ubuntu to
> host their Java based applications?  Or do users still just use the
> Oracle Java downloads instead and ignore what Ubuntu provides?

Using Oracle tarballs is cumbersome and doesn't integrate well with the
rest of the platform. I really appreciate being able to just run apt-get
to keep everything up to date.

Thanks for asking about this important question.

Regards,
Simon
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