[Oneiric-Topic] Nagios

Clint Byrum clint at ubuntu.com
Thu Mar 31 15:11:36 UTC 2011

Excerpts from Etienne Goyer's message of Thu Mar 31 07:34:56 -0700 2011:
> On 11-03-30 03:57 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
> >  On 03/30/2011 02:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:59 -0400, Chuck Short wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I think we should re-evaluate if nagios is the monitoring solution we
> >>> want to support and if it easy make really really easy to deploy.
> >>>
> >> Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and
> >> promoting icinga as its replacement:
> >>
> >> https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/
> >>
> > +1 from me
> Not that I care a whole lot, but isn't this somewhat the same debate as
> MySQL vs. one of the many forks?
> Nagios is now an household brand in IT.  I would be very, very cautious
> about dumping that out in favor of a recent fork.  I am all for doing a
> competitive analysis, but please take market adoption into account.

We have already committed to Nagios for 4 more years with 10.04. Its
not going anywhere.

Meanwhile in 1 year, we will be making another commitment with "P". I'd
like to see us make the delta between O and P's seeds very small, and
largely subtractive (removing things we don't want to support).

So if we're going to make a bold move, we should analyze these things
with an eye for where it appears they will go in the next year.

IMO, Nagios will remain popular, but lose ground slowly to alternatives
(as it has for the last few years). Icinga is a mystery to me, but
should get better than Nagios. Zenoss seems to be gaining steam at a
rapid pace. This Shinken thing looks *very* interesting, and they've
made a very wise decision to stick w/ nagios config file compatibility.

The way I'd like to see this happen is people read up on all the
alternatives, talk to users, and bring their experience and knowledge
of the conflicts, positives, and negatives for each with them to a UDS
session. We should try to accomplish as much as possible here and on
the wiki page so the session can stay focused on the question at hand:
Should nagios remain in main, and if not, what would take its place?

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