[Oneiric-Topic] Server Boot

Douglas Stanley douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com
Wed Mar 30 15:20:31 UTC 2011

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
<serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Quoting Douglas Stanley (douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com):
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
>> <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> > Quoting Scott Kitterman (ubuntu at kitterman.com):
>> >> There was a lot of discussion around improving the server boot experience
>> >> before the UDS-M.  A number of people expressed interest in seeing more useful
>> >> diagnostic information during boot.  Others expressed concerns with boot
>> >> reliability on the more complex hardware typically found in servers.
>> >>
>> >> How are we doing on this?  Personally, I can't remember the last time I
>> >> rebooted a server and it wasn't via SSH and the hardware I use is the sort
>> >> there were problems with.  Are these still issues for the Ubuntu Server
>> >> community?
>> >>
>> >> Scott K
>> >
>> > I think right now these issues are oveshadowed by the fact that a
>> > great deal of server software is not yet upstartified.  I think that
>> > needs to be addressed for O.
>> I agree, it can get confusing when for example restarting some
>> services, I do restart, and for others I have to do the older
>> /etc/init.d/service restart. I miss the days when it was all uniform
>> :)
> There's that, but the more serious issue is with startup dependencies.

I see your point. So could maybe the goal be to get everything
upstartified, but also develop some kind of wrapper in case the goal
isn't met?

> thanks,
> -serge
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