ubuntu-server Digest, Vol 50, Issue 14

Fri Feb 12 16:49:56 UTC 2010

He shouldn't mess with redmine/trac/whatever before he gets the basics of working with a revision control system.
My personal choice is bazaar, which i chose after using svn for a couple of years, then evaluated mercurial, found about bzr and decided to stick with it. Everyone should weight out the possible solutions and choose for themselves, then look for a web based issue system that integrates with his rcs of choice.

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From: "Alex Smith" <aosmith at gmail.com>
To: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:31:34 PM
Subject: Re: ubuntu-server Digest, Vol 50, Issue 14

Rudi,
Check out redmine.  It supports several CVS systems, and is IMHO the
best solution for web developers.
-Alex

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>   1. how to work with Code Repositories, but for web development?
>      (Rudi Ahlers)
>   2. Re: how to work with Code Repositories, but for web
>      development? (Nikolai K. Bochev)
>   3. Re: KVM on a Cluster? (Nikolai K. Bochev)
>   4. Re: KVM on a Cluster? (Benjamin Griese)
>   5. Re: dmidecode (Andy Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:44:00 +0200
> From: Rudi Ahlers <Rudi at SoftDux.com>
> Subject: how to work with Code Repositories, but for web development?
> To: Ubuntu Server Team <ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> I would like some suggestion on this matter please. I have never bothered
> using any code repositories / version control systems for our web
> development project, many cause I didn't know any better, and probably cause
> most of our projects don't really require that we need to keep a history of
> what has changed. i.e. a client wants to change something on their website,
> and we change it, whether it's cosmetics or code (normally PHP & MySQL).
>
> But, I want to see if CVS, or maybe even a forge script (like in offerforge)
> could benefit met. Most of the time when we make changes to the code, we
> simply update the version, from say 1.2.2 to 1.2.3 and write the changes to
> a basic changelog, which in our case is a simple text file calles
> changelog.txt
>
> But, how could I benefit from a CVS, ir similar system? And what would be
> best for this environment? I installed CVS on my CentOS server, but it seems
> that it's not just a matter of creating a tree and dumping code.  I'm not
> too worried about multiple users at this stage. All our coding is currently
> stored on a CentOS 5.4 Samba server, so we can access to the code from
> either a Windows or Linux PC. Do I need anything more?
>
> I started using eclipse+PHP a few months ago and I don't really use it to
> its full potential, so I'm sure I could benefit from it more.
>
>
>
> So, the question is, what is a good recommended setup to go with? Web based
> access to all the files would be nice, then we could access it from outside
> the LAN on HTTPS.
> And how do I use it to my benefit? For example, clientA wants to make
> changes to Project1. Now I have a Project1 in the CVS tree (is this the
> right terminology?), and make changes to file contacts.php - what now? Do I
> need to create a subfolder called 1.2.2 (for example), and add only the
> updated file in this folder, or do I copy the whole Project into the new
> folder?
>
> 2 weeks down the line I need to make changes to 8 files, what do I do now?
>
>
>
> Does this make sense? I realize it could be beneficial to keep older files,
> but how does one structure it?
>
> --
> Kind Regards
> Rudi Ahlers
> SoftDux
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:30:10 +0200 (EET)
> From: "Nikolai K. Bochev" <n.bochev at grandstarco.com>
> Subject: Re: how to work with Code Repositories, but for web
>        development?
> To: Rudi Ahlers <Rudi at SoftDux.com>
> Cc: Ubuntu Server Team <ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <669161159.2115.1265902210064.JavaMail.root at yellowwing>
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> If you ask me, this message doesn't belong in here.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rudi Ahlers" <Rudi at SoftDux.com>
> To: "Ubuntu Server Team" <ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:44:00 PM
> Subject: how to work with Code Repositories, but for web development?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like some suggestion on this matter please. I have never bothered using any code repositories / version control systems for our web development project, many cause I didn't know any better, and probably cause most of our projects don't really require that we need to keep a history of what has changed. i.e. a client wants to change something on their website, and we change it, whether it's cosmetics or code (normally PHP & MySQL).
>
> But, I want to see if CVS, or maybe even a forge script (like in offerforge) could benefit met. Most of the time when we make changes to the code, we simply update the version, from say 1.2.2 to 1.2.3 and write the changes to a basic changelog, which in our case is a simple text file calles changelog.txt
>
> But, how could I benefit from a CVS, ir similar system? And what would be best for this environment? I installed CVS on my CentOS server, but it seems that it's not just a matter of creating a tree and dumping code. I'm not too worried about multiple users at this stage. All our coding is currently stored on a CentOS 5.4 Samba server, so we can access to the code from either a Windows or Linux PC. Do I need anything more?
>
> I started using eclipse+PHP a few months ago and I don't really use it to its full potential, so I'm sure I could benefit from it more.
>
>
>
> So, the question is, what is a good recommended setup to go with? Web based access to all the files would be nice, then we could access it from outside the LAN on HTTPS.
> And how do I use it to my benefit? For example, clientA wants to make changes to Project1. Now I have a Project1 in the CVS tree (is this the right terminology?), and make changes to file contacts.php - what now? Do I need to create a subfolder called 1.2.2 (for example), and add only the updated file in this folder, or do I copy the whole Project into the new folder?
>
> 2 weeks down the line I need to make changes to 8 files, what do I do now?
>
>
>
> Does this make sense? I realize it could be beneficial to keep older files, but how does one structure it?
>
> --
> Kind Regards
> Rudi Ahlers
> SoftDux
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:31:58 +0200 (EET)
> From: "Nikolai K. Bochev" <n.bochev at grandstarco.com>
> Subject: Re: KVM on a Cluster?
> To: mail at sandervanvugt.nl
> Cc: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Hey,
>
> The closest thing i found was :
>
> http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090811.125913.6d2ffff6.en.html
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sander van Vugt" <mail at sandervanvugt.nl>
> To: "Mat" <mat at olitec.ca>
> Cc: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:13:25 PM
> Subject: Re: KVM on a Cluster?
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, this is perfectly possible. I'm just finalizing a book on how to do
> that trick with Xen machines. But from cluster perspective, it
> absolutely doesn't matter which machine type to use. Look for the
> following:
>
> openais + pacemaker HA clustering
> shared storage on a SAN, based on OCFS2 so that it is accessible by
> multiple nodes simultaneously
> enough RAM in all the host machines
>
> HTH,
> Sander
>
> On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 11:09 -0800, Mat wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> The cluster stack found in the wiki[1] looks very promising and I'm
>> looking forward to testing it out. One thing I've been thinking about
>> lately and looking for online is the possibility of running a virtual
>> machine with KVM on top of a cluster.
>>
>> Is it possible, or even practical to run an application like KVM on a
>> cluster? The reason driving me to think about this would be hardware
>> redundancy, and the ability to make "live" backups of a virtual machine
>> by isolating it from the others (a script that temporarily disables the
>> network?) and shutting it down for a snapshot.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have very little practical knowledge and experience
>> when it comes to clusters, so please feel free to enlighten me if I'm
>> proposing something crazy.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
>>
>> Thanks.
>> matoc
>>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:50:48 +0100
> From: Benjamin Griese <der.darude at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KVM on a Cluster?
> To: "Nikolai K. Bochev" <n.bochev at grandstarco.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> KVM and Cluster? :)
>
> Maybe you take a look at:
>
> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page
>
> bye
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 16:31, Nikolai K. Bochev
> <n.bochev at grandstarco.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> The closest thing i found was :
>>
>> http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090811.125913.6d2ffff6.en.html
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sander van Vugt" <mail at sandervanvugt.nl>
>> To: "Mat" <mat at olitec.ca>
>> Cc: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:13:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: KVM on a Cluster?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, this is perfectly possible. I'm just finalizing a book on how to do
>> that trick with Xen machines. But from cluster perspective, it
>> absolutely doesn't matter which machine type to use. Look for the
>> following:
>>
>> openais + pacemaker HA clustering
>> shared storage on a SAN, based on OCFS2 so that it is accessible by
>> multiple nodes simultaneously
>> enough RAM in all the host machines
>>
>> HTH,
>> Sander
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 11:09 -0800, Mat wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > The cluster stack found in the wiki[1] looks very promising and I'm
>> > looking forward to testing it out. One thing I've been thinking about
>> > lately and looking for online is the possibility of running a virtual
>> > machine with KVM on top of a cluster.
>> >
>> > Is it possible, or even practical to run an application like KVM on a
>> > cluster? The reason driving me to think about this would be hardware
>> > redundancy, and the ability to make "live" backups of a virtual machine
>> > by isolating it from the others (a script that temporarily disables the
>> > network?) and shutting it down for a snapshot.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, I have very little practical knowledge and experience
>> > when it comes to clusters, so please feel free to enlighten me if I'm
>> > proposing something crazy.
>> >
>> > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> > matoc
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:32:40 +0000
> From: Andy Smith <andy at strugglers.net>
> Subject: Re: dmidecode
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> Hi Kaushal,
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:53:31PM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>> I was interested in "How much Max Memory my san Box supports" using
>> dmidecode ? is that possible to find out.
>
> I have had dmidecode output be wrong/misleading before.  I usually
> get the motherboard model number from dmidecode and then consult the
> motherboard manual and/or crucial.com to see what is supported.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
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