Ubuntu server and cloud IRC consolidation

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at kitterman.com
Wed Aug 11 15:35:53 UTC 2010

On Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:28:28 am Mathias Gug wrote:
> Hi,
> Excerpts from Dan Sheffner's message of Wed Aug 11 11:14:04 -0400 2010:
> > I guess the only question I have is where do I ask questions about the
> > KVM hypervisor, virsh, and vmbuilder commands? #ubuntu-server or
> > #ubuntu-cloud? it would nice to have one room like #ubuntu-vm  for
> > virtual machines that would include xen, kvm, virsh, virtualbox,
> > eucalyptus, etc.
> As outlined in the proposal:
>   1) Development discussion happens in #ubuntu-devel
>      * e.g. packaging, patching, debugging, development, etc.
>   2) Traditional server discussion happens in #ubuntu-server
>      * e.g. running Ubuntu on your server hardware or in a * virtual
>        machine, getting it installed, configuration/management of
>        services, virtualization, etc.
>   3) New-age cloud server discussion happens in #ubuntu-cloud
>      * e.g. running UEC private clouds, running Ubuntu * in EC2, cloud
>        work loads, ensemble cloud magic, etc.
> #ubuntu-server seems the appropriate place to ask questions about KVM,
> virsh and vmbuilder.

I missed in the original proposal that development is now off topic in #ubuntu-
server.  I object to this change.  #ubuntu-server has been a joint 
developer/user channel for a very long time now.  It's the one place in the 
Ubuntu project where users and developers are on the same channels (yes, some 
developers are on user channels, to help, but that's different).  We discussed 
this very change not very long ago and the consensus was not to change it.

I feel like this change was slipped in with other changes about IRC channel 
consolidation and should have been (re) discussed separately (although 
honestly I don't see the need to revisit the discussion so soon).

Scott K

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