Shrinking consumed diskspace

[Ante Karamatić]

Anders Häggström wrote:

> No, ofcource not. In my defenition of a server is a minimal install
> that is specialised to hadle specific tasks in service to other
> computers. Therefor, on a server you only have what is needed to be
> able to do the task. No more, no less, exept for some managemet tools.
> The fiewer things there is the fiewer things can get boke or mess
> things up and therefore increase the uptime/availibility of the
> services/tasks.

There is no 'single' right way. One can argue that having minimal 
install is special case. Where do you stop with minimal? You could 
remove 'adduser' package too, since you can just add users with useradd. 
Or even better, remove useradd too, you can always type in new users in 
shadow. Of course, you could remove shadow too, cause you already have 
passwd :)

You get my point :)

> No, do I need to have expensive hardware or be backed up by a large
> company to be taken seriously?

No, just be reasonable.

> There is a big difference between false claims and a
> missunderstanding. And this was just a missunderstanding. I will try
> to explain what I meant with an example:
> If I install package X with a dependency Y. Both X and Y gets
> installed no matter if I use apt-get or atpitude, right?
> The bit difference (and this is what I meant) is when I remove package
> X with apt-get package Y will still be installed and unused. If I
> remove package X with aptitude (if I installed it with aptitude)
> package Y will also get removed, if it is not needed by some other
> packages.

And again, this isn't correct (for Feisty and Edgy). apt-get does keep 
the track of auto-installed packages and manually installed - magic 
command is 'apt-get autoremove'.

> What do you mean with "IIRC"?

If I Recall Correctly.

> No, I have installed a fiew packages that I will use that is not in
> the standard installation, like acpid, cpufreqd, cryptsetup, mdadm,
> lvm2 and lm-sensors

Now, I find wpasupplicant more needed than lm-sensors. I even have 
servers which need wpasupplicant. None of them needs lm-sensors. On 100 
server, there are 100 different installations - there is no single right 
way.