About ubuntu server packages

Leonel Nunez leonel at enelserver.com
Thu Jul 26 17:08:15 UTC 2007


> Leonel Nunez wrote:
>>> Joao Inacio wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/07, Soren Hansen <soren at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:20:00PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to migrate my centos 4 servers to ubuntu LTS 8.04 when
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will be released to build xen robust servers using redhat cluster
>>>>>> suite.  But I find a problem: how can I see which package have 5
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> support and not 3?? Why ubuntu server doesn't use separate repos
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> rhel does??
>>>>> They are separated. Only the LTS releases have 5 years or support and
>>>>> generally only the packages in the main component.  Can you specify
>>>>> what
>>>>> it is exactly you find unclear?
>>>>>
>>>> Unclear is the fact that because both the desktop LTS releases (3
>>>> years support) and server (5 years support) share the same (main)
>>>> repos, there isn't a clear and easy way to tell what support term a
>>>> certain package has once installed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree competly with Joao. If Canonical/Ubuntu wants to have greater
>>> presence in corporate's environments it would have to do something
>>> about
>>> this.
>>>
>>> But returning to initial question: how can I configure apt to update or
>>> install only server packages with no need to be verifying whenever if a
>>> package belongs to the server or desktop ??
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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>>> CL Martinez
>>> carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com
>>>
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>>
>> I really don't know .. but I know  ALL software has bugs
>> on the server side I care for the packages that are working with the net
>> as  Bind , apache , postfix, ssh, pop and imap
>>
>> Those packages are in main and it's clear they are from the server and
>> will be updated
>>
>> After reading :
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures
>>
>> I can tell that  Ubuntu LTS  in the server side will have updates for
>> the
>> most important packages ( LAMP Bind Postfix PostgreSQL , pop3 , imap )
>>
>> Leonel
>>
>>
>>
> Clear? Are you sure about this? In the case of these packages yes, but
> what about system-config-cluster package?. Redhat cluster suite is part
> of server but this package not (when on rhel is part of cluster suite).
> I can think that package is supported by server repository because it is
> a server software component (desktops are not used for this type of
> cluster), but surprise!!, it isn't. then I need to consult everytime
> ubuntu server's list packages ... This is really stupid when it is
> possible to be made two separate repos: one for the server and another
> for the workstation. Why Ubuntu developers (or Canociacl, I don't know)
> can't do this???
>
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according to the posted list  by Kees Cook
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/dapper/server

that package is on the server

but yes .. It would be great to have that distinction between  server an
desktop packages that  are on the  "GRAY ZONE" I mean  there are packages
that is clear what are from desktop and server but some others not


Leonel






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