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<body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 10:37:25 AM PDT Jeremy Bícha wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Hi,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> I co-maintain the GNU Image Manipulation Program app (GIMP) in Debian.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> After years of development, the upstream developers have announced</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> that they are on target for a Release Candidate of the new 3.0 version</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> by the end of 2023, although not necessarily in time for 23.10.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> 3.0 has a huge number of changes beyond switching from GTK2 to GTK3</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> including dark themes, partial CMYK support, etc. I would not expect</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> 2.10.x plugins to continue to work since the plugin system has been</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> overhauled.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> I think GIMP 3.0 or a Release Candidate would be appreciated in Ubuntu</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> 24.04 LTS. Therefore, I propose that we switch to the latest beta</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> build 2.99.16 for Ubuntu 23.10 now. I am emailing this list because</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> the decision affects multiple Ubuntu desktop flavors since the app is</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> included by default in Edubuntu, Ubuntu Cinnamon, Ubuntu Studio, and</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Xubuntu.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> References</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> --------------</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> https://www.gimp.org/news/2023/06/29/wilber-week-2023/</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> https://www.gimp.org/news/2023/07/09/gimp-2-99-16-released/</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/#gimp-30-development-branch-roadmap</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/milestones/3</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Thank you,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Jeremy Bícha</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">I have a couple of different interests here. Jeremy had emailed me separately and asked what my opinion would be here and I have stated my support for this with my Ubuntu Studio hat on. Separately, I spoke with Amy (CC'd) on this matter and she gave her support.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Having carried a beta of digiKam in 23.04's Ubuntu Studio release with no real complaints (and even a git snapshot in 22.10), a Release Candidate of GIMP seems very benign all things considered. After all, this is a snapshot of what may actually become the final release, so I would expect it to be highly representative of what we would expect in 3.0.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Giving that perspective to Amy, she agreed that Edubuntu would be on-board as well. Therefore, from both Ubuntu Studio and Edubuntu, we have no issue with Jeremy's proposal and give our support.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">-- </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Erich Eickmeyer</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio<br />Technical Lead - Edubuntu</p>
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