<div dir="ltr">If you wish to be pedantic, read through the "rules" of handing over. Whilst everyone (even me) is entitled to a "life", mile stone releases are of such significance that if the original OP has time constraints, there should be, as per the CoC a seamless hand over of responsibilities. <div>
<br></div><div>I do not, therefore think that any apology is needed from all the *buntu teams who have had no leadership for failed builds etc. Only now am I sending out an email to let their testers know that the ISO's are there. To further this, it has been suggested that the beta 1 *may* be delayed until Friday.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 September 2013 23:38, Micah Gersten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micahg@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">micahg@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5">
<div>On 09/02/2013 05:12 PM, Phill Whiteside
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd like to register that while my self and Laney have not
seen eye tio eye, his attempt of building the Beta 1's for our
community teams has been a complete and utter disaster.</div>
<div><rant></div>
<div> The release team are trying to pick up the pieces and
manually spin ISO's. The cut off date is Thursday, we are now
on Tuesday with NO stable ISO. For heavens sake, out of all
the community who wanted a beta 1... lubuntu was the only one
there and told it would be re-spun.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is a disgraceful way to treat testers. Yes, those
people who actually check systems work. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can be a royal PITA for shouting up what testers let me
know, but not having a beta 1 - with no idea when it will
arrive and the final; insult of the person "Laney" to vanish
from the discussion explains one simple thing... He's not up
to the job of being pro-active for issues that occur. Instead
the -release team gathered together to do what they could. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Laney, in charge?!!! Where was he?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div></end rant></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote></div></div>
To quote the original mail [1]:<br>
"Also let
us know when you would like automatic image builds stopped,
otherwise
the assumption is Monday evening UK time."<br>
<br>
The window from Thursday to today was meant to stabilize ISOs after
the freeze. I see no evidence on this list that you wanted Beta
ISOs any sooner than the rest of the flavors.<br>
<br>
Release candidates for Betas are usually available sometime on
Tuesday of release week as are the alphas. The main difference with
beta is there are a few days to stabilize ISOs without a lot of
churn in the archive. AFAIK, this has not changed in years.<br>
<br>
Laney stopped the dailies and spun up ISOs as he said he would,
warned that he wouldn't be around later, and said that people can
respin if needed. [2]<br>
<br>
Chastising someone for stepping away when it's late evening for them
[2] (close to 8PM in this case when the interaction occured, though,
really, it's not ok at any time). There are polite ways to address
disagreements and this certainly isn't one of them. <br>
<br>
To quote the CoC [3]:<br>
<ul>
<li>
<h4>Be respectful</h4>
<p>Disagreement is no excuse for poor manners. We work together
to resolve conflict, assume good intentions and do our best to
act in an empathic fashion. We don't allow frustration to turn
into a personal attack. A community where people feel
uncomfortable or threatened is not a productive one.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<br>
I think that a public apology is in order here.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Micah Gersten<br>
Ubuntu Core Dev and Ubuntu Membership Board member<br>
<br>
[1]
<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-August/002499.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-August/002499.html</a><br>
[2]
<a href="http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/02/%23ubuntu-release.html#t17:00" target="_blank">http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/02/%23ubuntu-release.html#t17:00</a>
and continues of and on until about 19:00<br>
[3] <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct" target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct</a><br>
</div>
<br>--<br>
Ubuntu-release mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a>
</a>
</blockquote></div></div>