Maintenance of Launchpad team bug subscriptions

[Ross Gammon]

Hi Robie,

Indeed, this is a great idea that could be used in other teams. I have
been wanting a more automated way of updating the Ubuntu Studio bug
subscriptions. And I would rather not build something special.

If I was to create the Ubuntu Studio bug subscription list in the yaml
file from scratch, I would want to take the package names from the
Package Set, which is also in Launchpad. Maybe a function to compare the
two and propose a commit with new packages from the package set? But are
the team names the same in both cases?

Just food for thought.

Regards,

Ross
 
On 12/14/21 4:53 PM, Robie Basak wrote:
> Dear Archive Team,
>
> On the Server Team, we've started to use git to manage our team
> subscriptions to packages in Launchpad. The main reasons are:
>
> 1) To avoid inadvertent changes - we lost a bunch of subscriptions by
> accident at one point.
>
> 2) To keep an audit trail of changes made.
>
> This is particularly important for the server team as we have an
> effective bug triage process now that is able to stay on top of all new
> bug traffic for all our subscribed packages. Accidentally losing a
> subscription causes bug traffic to miss our bug triage process, which
> includes tracking new activity on previously triaged bugs.
>
> We're achieving this with the script at this repository, which also
> contains our canonical list of subscriptions:
> https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+git/team-subscriptions
>
> The script just ensures that Launchpad's view matches our "officially
> subscribed" list that we keep there in git. Changes made in Launchpad
> that aren't committed in git get reverted automatically.
>
> The requirement from us is simply that the git repository be updated
> with any changes to our subscriptions with a suitable commit message to
> provide an explanation. Otherwise changes intentionally get reverted.
>
> When I arranged this, it didn't occur to me that anybody other than us
> touches our package subscriptions on Launchpad. But apparently you do,
> when making changes for technicalities like versioned source package
> names (see below for the thread with an example). I didn't even realise
> that you had an ACL that permitted you to do so directly, thinking that
> the request always went via our team in the past.
>
> However if your expectation is that you can JFDI in Launchpad itself,
> then this clashes with our desire for the audit trail.
>
> On the other hand, I don't expect to be forcing this onto other teams,
> and so having a different workflow for you to follow depending on which
> team it is will also clearly be a pain.
>
> Any suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> Note that the script is deliberately generic and so other teams could
> adopt it too if they wish. And of course we can move the repository
> and/or provide ACLs to relevant other teams as needed.
>
> Robie
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 09:04:54AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 07:31:16AM +0000, Robie Basak wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 10:19:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 08:00:23AM +0000, robie.basak at canonical.com wrote:
>>>>> The following subscriptions are superfluous:
>>>>>   php8.1
>>>>> Superfluous subscriptions removed
>>>> Please revert this, I subscribed the server team to php8.1 so it could be
>>>> promoted and unblock php-defaults in -proposed.
>>> Done.
>>> Sorry this broke your workflow. We need any changes to our subscriptions
>>> to be committed to git now[1]. I'm not sure how to make this less
>>> painful for you next time, save for asking us instead of making the
>>> change directly.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+git/team-subscriptions
>> As I happen to be subscribed to ubuntu-server and see these emails, it's easy
>> enough for me to follow up to confirm.  I don't think all members of the
>> Ubuntu Archive team are subscribed to this list, and I'm sure they're not
>> aware there's been a Server Team-specific change to the promotion workflow. 
>> I'd suggest that you promulgate this to the Archive Team
>> (ubuntu-release at lists) so that there's awareness and we can discuss how best
>> to integrate this into the workflow.
>>
>> In the meantime I'd just ask that when your scripts detect a mismatch, the
>> Server Team be proactive about following up to figure out why the mismatch
>> was there.
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
>> Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
>> Ubuntu Developer                                   https://www.debian.org/
>> slangasek at ubuntu.com                                     vorlon at debian.org
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