[SRU discussion] Renaming the 'Regression Potential' section

[Lukasz Zemczak]

Thank you for bringing this up again Seb, Iain.

You brought it up at the right moment as I just encountered the
aforementioned problem while reviewing an SRU in the queue.

Laney: I glimpsed through your proposition and this sound sane to me.
The section name isn't super pretty, but at least it's understandable
and straightforward. So a +1 from me with my SRU hat - we can always
work on the wording afterwards and this feels like a decent start.

If you're fine with it (and no one else from the SRU team disagrees),
I'll commit your change and send the e-mail afterwards.

Cheers,

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 16:41, Iain Lane <laney at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> A while ago I actually wrote some content for this, but I failed to
> follow up to this thread to push it forward. Sorry about that and thanks
> for the reminder.
>
> Here it is:
>
> Proposed change to the wiki page:
>
>   https://git.launchpad.net/~laney/+git/sru-regressions/commit/?id=91ebf1c2b65cb77637cdf1c8fe6339bfde64288a
>
> Proposed email to send to ubuntu-devel:
>
>   https://git.launchpad.net/~laney/+git/sru-regressions/tree/email.txt
>
> If someone from the SRU team is willing to help now I think that would
> be the best way to move this forward. Feel free to take my text and edit
> it, ask for peer review if you want, and then ideally commit the change
> to the wiki and send the mail.
>
> Cheers,
> Iain
>
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 04:27:46PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I hit another of those bugs where the well intended controbutor spent
> > time writing a 'low <rational of why it was tested upstream and
> > downstream>', any chance to see the discussion leading to a conclusion.
> >
> > I was thinking maybe something around the line of
> > 'Regression Testing Focus'
> > it's a bit longer but you can't reply 'low' to it...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sebastien Bacher
> >
> > Le 30/07/2020 à 13:40, Dan Streetman a écrit :
> > > +1 this is incorrectly filled out most of the time, or at least it
> > > feels that way. I'm not sure what exact wording will be clearer,
> > > though.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:36 AM Iain Lane <laney at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > >> Hiya,
> > >>
> > >> I often come across SRU bugs from developers that seem to treat the
> > >> Regression Potential section as a place to argue why their upload is not
> > >> risky and should be accepted. Like
> > >>
> > >>   [ Regression Potential ]
> > >>   Low. This only changes X Y Z.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not going to bother repeating the arguments for why that's wrong. I
> > >> find the wiki page
> > >>
> > >>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#SRU_Bug_Template
> > >>
> > >> quite clear on what's needed. But I think the message hasn't managed to
> > >> get through to everybody yet, which to me indicates that we haven't yet
> > >> achieved a universal culture of critically assessing our own work.
> > >> Thinking "what if I'm wrong and this update is bad, where might that
> > >> happen?"
> > >>
> > >> My *straw man* proposal is to rename the section to something like
> > >> 'Where problems could occur' or something more explicit than what we
> > >> currently have.
> > >>
> > >> This is obviously partly/mostly a problem that the expectations haven't
> > >> gotten through to people, so while I think we should rename, any change
> > >> will need to be communicated so that people know about it and then
> > >> enforced by the SRU team for a little while.
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts welcome.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
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