raring iso beta2 - incomplete language support

[Steve Langasek]

Hi Nick,

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:03:38PM -0400, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
> Excellent, thanks Vasudevan.

> So open question to the release team -- should these two packages be
> on the iso?
> hyphen-en-us
> thunderbird-locale-en

> (I reckon for all default languages they are missing as well).

> I checked the filesystem manifest for the latest raring iso and
> indeed these are missing. And we prompt then upon login to install
> them if you do a non-network english install. My guess is for our
> supported languages we should include these packages. Thoughts?

It's expected/intended that these packages are not included on the ISO.
The first time the machine is connected to the network, you're offered the
option to install them; but they're optional packages, and including them on
the CD would mean a trade-off between never prompting to install extra
packages for language support, and fitting more languages on the image.  I
think making the image useful to users of more languages when no network is
available at all is worthwhile.

BTW, when you say "prompt upon login if you do a non-network install", you
mean that you're prompted if you did a non-network install and then
connected to the network post-install, correct?  Obviously if you have no
network, we shouldn't prompt you to install packages you'll be unable to
download.

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> On 04/18/2013 05:02 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
> >Hi Nicholas,
> >This is the info that I have:
> >Some translations or writing aids available for your chosen
> >languages are not installed yet -
> >Details
> >hyphen-en-us
> >thunderbird-locale-en
> >
> >contents for one of the preseed files from 1304 iso
> >
> >cat /mnt/preseed/cli.seed
> ># Only install the standard system and language packs.
> >tasksel    tasksel/first    multiselect
> >d-i    pkgsel/language-pack-patterns    string
> ># No language support packages.
> >d-i    pkgsel/install-language-support    boolean false
> >
> >Vasudevan
> >On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Vasudevan Kottilil
> ><vasudevank2 at gmail.com <mailto:vasudevank2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >    Yes - installed it with out internet access.
> >    After installation, ran apt-get update and still got it.
> >    Will try to see what all language packs got installed.
> >
> >
> >    On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Nicholas Skaggs
> >    <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com
> >    <mailto:nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com>> wrote:
> >
> >        Take a look at what it is wanting to install -- what packages?
> >        Odds are the following happened:
> >
> >        You installed without internet access
> >        The language packs it wants to install for US English aren't
> >        on the cd
> >
> >        Now, if you figure out what language packs didn't install, we
> >        can narrow if they are on the image or not. If they are, it's
> >        most certainly a bug. If they aren't we'll have to confer with
> >        the release team about whether or not they should be included.
> >        I hope that makes sense! Let us know!
> >
> >        Nicholas
> >
> >
> >        On 04/15/2013 11:20 AM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
> >
> >            After installation, this window pops up.
> >            "The language support for your selected language seems to
> >            be incomplete ... etc."
> >            Installation options were default - language - US English
> >            Not sure if this is expected behavior or not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 

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