Alpha 1 - Manifest?

[Kate Stewart]

On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 12:37 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 01:12:34PM +0930, Jason Warner wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at ubuntu.com>wrote:
> > > It is certainly my understanding that the Ubuntu DVD image is to be dropped
> > > this cycle in favor of a single bigger-than-CD image (the desktop image).
> > > Since there wasn't a session for this at UDS however, I'm not certain if
> > > this got blueprinted or if there is indeed agreement that this is the way
> > > we're going.  Cc:ing Jason for comment - Jason, is there a blueprint
> > > regarding what desktop images we'll have for 12.10?
> 
> > There is no blueprint. The thought is to move to a single USB based image
> > of around 800MB size limit.
> 
> Looks like we have this blueprint now, courtesy of Seb:
> 
>   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-one-iso-for-q
> 
> FWIW, the historical discussions of how we would size the no-longer-CD
> images took place around this blueprint/UDS session:
> 
>   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-great-cd-debate
> 
> I was hoping to find information there about the intended timeline for
> ratcheting up the limit; unfortunately that doesn't seem to be captured in
> the whiteboard, possibly because it was overshadowed by the discussion of
> shrinking the DVD.
> 
> Anyway, I bring this up because the hallway discussion at the latest UDS
> seemed to converge on 750MiB (== 786MB) for the image size for 12.10, after
> noting that 750MB is not much greater than our current 736MB.  But
> effectively that's just kicking the can down the road a cycle, since we
> would have the same question going from 786MB to 800MB.
> 
> The question is, over the long term does it make more sense to have images
> sized in MiB or MB?  Is a 1GB USB stick really 1GB, or is it 1GiB?  Or does
> this even matter, given that a) we want free space for persistence on a
> typical USB stick, and b) 1GB USB sticks are increasingly rare because of
> how small they are?
> 
> I'm personally fine with either 800MB or 750MiB (786MB) as a target for this
> cycle, I just want to make sure we understand our trajectory for future
> releases and that the limit in quantal makes sense as a point on that
> trajectory.

I'd rather see us go to 800MB and give us some breathing room to
experiment with this new form factor,  now that we've made the decision
to not use CDs. 

Kate