Disabling whoopsie by default in the 12.04.1 release
Sebastien Bacher
seb128 at ubuntu.com
Thu Aug 2 21:31:56 UTC 2012
Hey,
That's something quite some people raised as an issue since precise, the
frequent whoopsie dialogs in the LTS gives users the feeling that
precise is unstable (it seems often qualified to buggier over previous
release for no reason out of the number of error dialogs showing up to
report bugs).
I've discussed the issue with different people in different teams, here
is my try to a summary of the pro and con:
Pro:
- it gives us infos on what issues users run into
- it gives feedback to users on what happen when a program close while
they are using it
Con:
- it's showing up too often and giving the impression to users that the
system is buggy
- it's often showing programming errors which don't impact users
(untracked exception from python softwares or services by example), what
users get the most notified about is glitchs about things like ubuntuone
services, oneconf, software-center ... most of those are not user
visible issues and the frontend would handle the glitches fine without
whoopsie notifying the users
- errors.ubuntu.com is not good enough yet that we can properly tackle
those issues
- we don't have the resources to get where we want to be in a short
timeframe, we are working on it but meanwhile we are impacting users for
things we don't make real use for
I know that most of the cons are addressable but until we do address
them the consensus form the people I talked to seems to be that the
cost-benefit is largely not in our favour at this point so I would
recommend we do disable it by default for 12.04.1 to minimize LTS
annoyance and keep it enable from now on for new release (on the basis
that the system will improve enough that we can catch up and that the
perception issues is a bit less of an issue on a non LTS)
Just to give some details about the errors.ubuntu.com issues mentioned
before (I think people are going to ask what are the problems at some
point so I can as well reply to that here):
- it's not possible to filter out issues which have been resolved from
the list (so it's hard to know what has been worked on and what needs
work still)
- it's not possible to say what issue happens to what version and get
stats of instances of the bugs by version, i.e to get datas on whether
the situation improved or not for a bug
- some of our engineers have issues login into the system to get access
to the infos they need to work on the bugs, that situation is still not
resolved after some months
- other small issues, but I don't want to turn that email into a "list
what is wrong currently", especially when we have people knowing about
those and working on improving the situation
I would add that Evan did an amazing job so far and that
errors.ubuntu.com has been proved very useful already (we fixed at least
an hundred bugs, most wouldn't have show up in this way using launchpad)
so the email is not again that work, we just feel that the current
status of the system and the resources allocated to fixing those bugs
gives us a situation where the benefit is not sufficient to justify the
cost on the Ubuntu image.
What do people think about turning whoopsie off for 12.04.1?
Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher
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