Clarifying Unseeded Universe Freeze

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Thu Sep 29 05:50:37 UTC 2011

Clint Byrum <clint at> wrote:

>Excerpts from Kate Stewart's message of Wed Sep 28 15:36:09 -0700 2011:
>> Dear Ubuntu release team members, 
>>   On the #ubuntu-release IRC channel today the discussion of when
>> the unseeded universe freeze came up today. A proposal was made to
>> freeze it 36 hours before the final images are published. 
>> The precedents that exist in our current process documentation right
>> are:
>>       * Work with universe/multiverse community to identify delegates
>>         approve Feature Freeze Exceptions, in addition to
>>         until the date of Final Freeze for universe.
>>       * Set the Final Freeze date (typically at release minus 5 days)
>>         for universe/multiverse for the packages that are NOT found
>>         any installation media. 
>>       * Universe/multiverse delegates and final freeze date is
>>         to ubuntu-devel-discuss and ubuntu-devel-announce. 
>>         * For packages in universe that aren't seeded in any of the
>>         Ubuntu flavors, this final freeze is nominal; packages must
>>         manually accepted by the archive admins, but no additional
>>         approval is required until the Unseeded Universe Final
>> Have I missed any other references to the Unseeded Universe Freeze
>> are relevant?
>> What do others think?   pro's/con's of moving from 5 days to 1.5
>This is not all inclusive, but these things come to mind:
>Pro's of 1.5 days vs 5 days:
>* Less 0-day SRU's (any bugs found late can be fixed in release, easing
>the burden of the heavy SRU process)
>* Approving packages means more duties for the release team close to
>the release date
>* Time spent fixing things in universe is less time spent testing main
>I think having more fixes in the released universe is a good thing for
>quality, but I worry about the impact, even if its small, on the
>process as a whole.

In my experience there's no impact.  Even if a group of MOTU get fired up and fix a bunch of stuff, getting things reviewed isn't an issue.   Some releases we do get a motivated group at the end that really makes a good bunch of changes. It's amazing what a few focused MOTU can accomplish.

Scott K

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