FinalFreeze - implications on Universe?

[Robbie Williamson]

On 08/15/2011 11:56 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
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> Kate Stewart <kate.stewart at canonical.com> wrote:
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>> Dear release team members, 
>>
>> Based on some discussions we've been having on the other Freezes, would
>> like to see if there is consensus to make FinalFreeze[1], apply to
>> Universe as well as main. 
>>
>>   Right now the process states:
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>> "For packages in universe that aren't seeded in any of the Ubuntu
>> flavors, this final freeze is nominal; packages must be manually
>> accepted by the archive admins, but no additional approval is
>> required."
>>
>> There's no timing on this,  but historically we've not been accepting
>> into the archive after a certain point. 
>>
>> What is "seeded" is also a bit ambiguous these days as well.
>>
>> So...
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>> 1) does it make sense to declare FinalFreeze to be freeze on all the
>> archive?
>>
>> or 
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>> 2) do we want a separate explicit universe Freeze (and be clearer what
>> is ok to upload in the period between FinalFinal freeze, and this date)
>>
>> or
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>> 3)...
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>> Thoughts?
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>> Thanks, Kate
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>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze
> 
> What problem are you trying to solve? We get a lot of good fixes in during this period, so it's not clear to me why we would want to change it.
> 
> Scott K
> 
For me, I would just be happy with a date....if it's adjusted each
release and/or 2 days before release...again, I'm fine.  Speaking for
myself, the problem is that without the date, an upstream can't
communicate to their users what to expect to see in a given Ubuntu
release versus what they'll need to use a daily-build/upstream snapshot
for...because they don't know when the freeze occurs relative to their
own development timeline.

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