<div dir="ltr">Was unity working before you install the proprietary drivers?<div><br></div><div>Istimsak Abdulbasir</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Samuel Gabbay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Here are the specs</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fh10025.www1.hp.com%2Fewfrf%2Fwc%2Fdocument%3Fdocname%3Dc02618765%26cc%3Dfr%26dlc%3Den%26lc%3Dfr&ei=64nQUeCqHKL0yQGI-IDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_dzd3DPuAmq3cvve2piCsQNY-yw" target="_blank">https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fh10025.www1.hp.com%2Fewfrf%2Fwc%2Fdocument%3Fdocname%3Dc02618765%26cc%3Dfr%26dlc%3Den%26lc%3Dfr&ei=64nQUeCqHKL0yQGI-IDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_dzd3DPuAmq3cvve2piCsQNY-yw</a></div> <div><br></div><div>I tried installig the ati drivers and unity would simply not work mate </div><div><br>Envoyé de mon iPod</div><div><br>Le 2013-06-30 à 03:16 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <<a href="mailto:saqman2060@gmail.com" target="_blank">saqman2060@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br> <br></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Tell us more about your GPU not working with 13.04.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Samuel Gabbay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Because my graphics dont work with 13.04:(<br><br>Envoyé de mon iPod</div><div><br>Le 2013-06-30 à 02:48 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <<a href="mailto:saqman2060@gmail.com" target="_blank">saqman2060@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br> <br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I hope it does. <div><br></div><div>Here is what I read on, <a href="http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29" target="_blank">http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29</a>,</div> <div><br></div><div>"<span style="background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px">For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with XMir (an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7 codebase (the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10 development release).</span></div> <p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers (e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in Ubuntu 13.10."</p> <p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> <br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X.</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> <br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> Istimsak Abdulbasir</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Sans',Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:17px"> <br></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please <br><br>Envoyé de mon iPod</div><div><br>Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <<a href="mailto:saqman2060@gmail.com" target="_blank">saqman2060@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br> <br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers. Hopefully, those will supported in the near future. <div><br></div><div>What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir. </div> <div><br></div><div>Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn.</div><div><br></div><div>Istimsak Abdulbasir</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com" target="_blank">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are proprietary.<br> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system vendors, so<br> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical has<br> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, but<br> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do that.<br> <br> Scott K<br> <div><div><br> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:<br> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of XMir<br> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X<br> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir<br> > should have optimal support for most GPUs.<br> ><br> > <a href="http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne" target="_blank">http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne</a><br> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29<br> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman<br> <<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com" target="_blank">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>>wrote:<br> > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any vendor<br> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least<br> > > somewhat<br> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered.<br> > ><br> > > Scott K<br> > ><br> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me.<br> > ><br> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote:<br> > > > Hello Istimsak,<br> > > ><br> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for<br> > > > them<br> > > > by 14.04 LTS.<br> > > ><br> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)<br> > > > (K)ubuntu member<br> > > ><br> > > ><br> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir <<a href="mailto:saqman2060@gmail.com" target="_blank">saqman2060@gmail.com</a>><br> > > ><br> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video<br> > ><br> > > drivers",<br> > ><br> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the<br> > ><br> > > proprietary<br> > ><br> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers?<br> > > > ><br> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir<br> > > > ><br> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman<br> > ><br> > > <<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com" target="_blank">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>>wrote:<br> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone<br> > > > >> with<br> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other<br> > > > >> flavors are<br> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04<br> > ><br> > > hardware<br> > ><br> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case.<br> > > > >><br> > > > >> Scott K<br> > > > >><br> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:<br> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will<br> > ><br> > > rollback<br> > ><br> > > > >> to<br> > > > >><br> > > > >> > xorg.<br> > > > >> ><br> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" <<a href="mailto:adriangoodyer@gmail.com" target="_blank">adriangoodyer@gmail.com</a>><br> > > > >><br> > > > >> wrote:<br> > > > >> > > A<br> > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if<br> > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X.<br> > > > >> > ><br> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be<br> > > > >> > > available?<br> > > > >> > ><br> > > > >> > > Ade.<br> > > > >> > ><br> > > > >> > ><br> > > > >> > ><br> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir <<br> > > > >><br> > > > >> <a href="mailto:saqman2060@gmail.com" target="_blank">saqman2060@gmail.com</a><br> > > > >><br> > > > >> > > > wrote:<br> > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both<br> > > > >> > >> Mir<br> > > > >> > >> and<br> > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy?<br> > > > >> > >><br> > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir<br> > > > >> > >><br> > > > >> > >> --<br> > > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list<br> > > > >> > >> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> > > > >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> > > > >> > >> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a><br> > > > >><br> > > > >> --<br> > > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list<br> > > > >> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> > > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> > > > >> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a><br> > > > ><br> > > > > --<br> > > > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list<br> > > > > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> > > > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a><br> > ><br> > > --<br> > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list<br> > > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a><br> <br> --<br> Ubuntu-quality mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>-- </span><br><span>Ubuntu-quality mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a></span><br> <span>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div> </div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> </div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>