If you want to be in experiment mode, try desktop 12.10 powerpc. Of course I will try nearly anything (probably a left over view from the 60's) .. You should be fine using the alternate 12.10 for a testing install. I still have 12.04 on my G4 PowerBook and it is stable as..as..as debian .. q:o) I use about 115MB when it is idling. Greg nm_geo <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote> </div>