Upgrade was a disaster as usual <- still dead horse, just a clarification.

[Dave Morley]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:03:08 -0800
Ryein Goddard <ryein.goddard at gmail.com> wrote:

> His concern seems valid.  Seems like a quality control issue.  How
> was this possible?
> 
> 
> On 12/12/2016 10:39 AM, C de-Avillez wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:45:31 -0500
> > JMZ <florentior at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 12/11/2016 07:12 PM, teo teo wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>  
> >>> 2) sticking to an LTS for 2 f***ing years means sticking to
> >>> tremendously obsolete software, usually full of bugs that have
> >>> already been fixed upstream (by the way that is usually already
> >>> true when the ubuntu release is brand new, let alone two years
> >>> later),  
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> I know, someone's going to think, "don't feed the troll".  Hear me
> >> out. Teo teo's concerns about LTS are not trollish.  Users who
> >> elect to run LTS rather than incremental releases must, at some
> >> point, maintain the system with more current debs which
> >> approximate the incremental upgrades.  I always follow the
> >> incremental upgrades, as I'd rather fix a version which is farther
> >> along in development than LTS.  I never fully understood why a
> >> individual user would use LTS. LTS is better suited to a
> >> circumstance where uniformity is prized, such as small businesses,
> >> corporations, libraries etc.  Teo teo is certainly right that an
> >> LTS plan of action has significant deficits.  
> > That might be true (that Teo's concerns may be important).
> > Nevertheless, s/he behaves in a trollish way, and *intentionally*
> > has been evading moderation.
> >
> > S/he is moderated again.
> >
> > I personally do not care if these concerns are valid or not -- I
> > stopped reading her/his comments the moment they went to Trollland.
> >
> > There are many ways of raising an issue. The way s/he does it is not
> > acceptable on the Ubuntu ecosystem.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > ..C..
> >
> >  
> 

The upgrades are tested repeatedly, in particular for LTS releases.
The issue her is you can't take into account every piece of hardware in
the world, or every piece of software.

We try upgrades with a mix of data and applications, we try from
default install to default install, we try with none default
applications selected as default instead of the default ones, so we are
pretty much covered.

There are corner cases that we just can't test, for that you report a
bug and it is worked on by developers so it doesn't happen again, the
end.

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