replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Shubham Rao cshubhamrao at gmail.com
Sat Sep 19 11:51:32 UTC 2015


Getting rid of persistence? It's one of the things that make LiveUSBs of
Linux awesome. It would be a step in the backward direction.
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 at 4:59 PM, Marc Deslauriers <
marc.deslauriers at canonical.com> wrote:

> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> > My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail via
> Google's
> > web mail interface. In my saved version of the mail, there is an
> attachment
> > "SCC-test.ods", size 17692 bytes. I'll try again ...
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
>
> That's a very interesting spreadsheet, thanks for doing that. It seems most
> issues are:
>
> - A known bug in udisks that prevents the erase function from working
> reliably
> (LP: #1460602)
>
> - A mismatch between syslinux versions between the host system creating
> the usb
> key and the version being installed (LP: #1325801)
>
> - A limitation of the fix for the syslinux issue that prevents amd64
> images from
> being created on i386 systems (LP: #1446646)
>
>
> I believe a simple way to eliminate every one of these issues at once in
> UDC
> would be to get rid of the persistence functionality. All of the currently
> supported images can now be written directly to a usb device as-is.
>
> The syslinux and boot loader mangling that is currently required for
> persistence
> and used to be required for older end of life releases is a constant
> source of
> problems each time a new release come out and is difficult to get working
> properly on mismatched architectures.
>
> Removing persistence would also simplify the user interface and would
> remove the
> need of having the "Erase Disk" button, therefore eliminating the known
> udisks
> issue as a side effect.
>
> Advanced users who require generating a usb key with persistence can
> simply use
> one of the other tools that are available. Perhaps in the future
> persistence
> could be added back by creating a partition in the free space left over
> after
> copying over the image.
>
> Changing UDC to remove persistence and to copy images as-is is a trivial
> change,
> and I am willing to volunteer to do it.
>
> Marc.
>
>
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