Fwd: Re: Asking users to upstream
Alberto Salvia Novella
es20490446e at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 18:33:11 UTC 2015
Seems that I cannot longer mail the Quality team. Probably someone got
angry with 🍘.
So I'm sending the message directly to you, as I don't know how long
will it be on hold:
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Asking users to upstream
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:44:26 +0200
From: Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e at gmail.com>
To: Ubuntu Quality Team <ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com>
Thomas Ward:
> Does upstream actually value this activity? Do they have issues with
> users who may be posting the bugs themselves to do the upstreaming when
> they may not actually be able to provide enough information for such
> upstream reports to be useful?
All reports at
<https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.tag=asked-to-upstream&orderby=-heat>
were handled properly by their reporters.
What won't be a surprise, as they are asked to upstream only after the
report in Launchpad is complete. So they will figure out what upstream
expects.
Thomas Ward:
> Are the bugs being linked correctly back in Launchpad, or are some
> slipping through the cracks as comments only and not actually linked
> bugs?
Looks like that's okay too.
Thomas Ward:
> Have you done any spotchecks on upstreams, such as versions the bugs
> are against being unsupported, or whether upstream is actually doing
> anything with such upstreamed reports? Does upstream end up with a
> thousand duplicates as a result? And if so, does that actually make
> our users upstreaming the bugs worthwhile as a part of the "filing
> the bug themselves" process?
From all the bugs I just checked, I only remember one being marked as
duplicate. There was no one upstream said they didn't support.
Javier Domingo Cansino:
> Ubuntu is not a bleeding edge distro and because of that, development
> upstream can be affected by already corrected bugs. In Arch Linux for
> example, users report all bugs upstream but the ones concerning the
> packaging. This flow however is damaging (IMO) when users are served
> outdated versions of programs.
I think the only way to know is actually asking upstream.
On the other hand, this issue is the reason why I only work on bugs in
the current and future Ubuntu releases. So perhaps bugs in previous
releases could be treated differently, if you have a better idea.
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