Asking users to upstream

[Thomas Ward]

On 04/27/2015 08:48 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> Thomas Ward:
> > What of the individuals doing the upstreaming, are they linking the
> > bugs correctly?
>
> Alberto Salvia Novella:
> >   Please:
> >      1. Report to [UPSTREAM BUG TRACKER URL].
> >      2. Paste the new report URL here.
> >      3. Set this bug status back to "confirmed".
> >    Thank you.
>
> 👬 The reporter isn't who links the bug upstream, but a triager.
>
(First character here is EMOJI - NonDisplay on Ubuntu + Thunderbird). 
We've had this discussion MANY times prior with you and on this list
about using Emoji - don't.
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> Thomas Ward:
> > Have you actually validated the value *upstream* from Ubuntu on this?
>
> 📺 As this dumps all the comments from upstream to Launchpad, all
> what's going on will be visible downstream too, won't it? So any
> mismatch should be obvious.
For which upstreams?  I have only seen this with one or two upstream
trackers, and not all the comments trace back for all upstreams.

>
> Brendan Perrine:
> > How many of the bugs get fixed is the important metric and how
> > quickly they get fixed.
>
> 📩 For making it fast, original triagers can just subscribe to
> notifications and link upstream as soon as the bug gets confirmed back.
>
> 📊 And if you make the mean of days it took to triaged bugs in
> <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=asked-to-upstream> to
> get triaged till the user was asked to upstream, it has been 10 days.
> Been the most frequently case the very same day, making the 50% of
> samples.
>
> 📉 Looking at
> <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=asked-to-upstream&orderby=-heat&start=0>
> you can realize that the most grave and frequent bugs tend to be
> triaged months in advance of release.
The 'triaged' state means nothing if there's no work to fix it.  That's
our argument here.  Triaged != Fix Released.
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And stop with the emoji please.


Thomas