Fwd: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Ubuntu Core/Touch Android 4.4 support & touch engineering platform/devices/hardware going forward

Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjjawad at gmail.com
Mon Jan 13 23:43:43 UTC 2014

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Jack Ramsay <jack at troop55.net> wrote:

> Why are we dropping support for those devices?

> I honestly think that it is a bad choice to only support the newest
> devices because there are a lot of people that are using those devices.

It honestly seems like a push to make people go out and get new devices.
When it comes to Smart Phone/Tablets and these kind of things, it seems
everyone not even Canonical is always pushing people to buy new devices,
even though their own devices are still working and that usually start with
stop releasing new updates for the system and then pull the plug and simply
"Sorry, get new one".

If truth to be told, that is 'not' the fault of the Companies. Not taking
sides here but that is what IMHO is happening:
It is a fault of the consumers who don't really mind buying new device
every year or twice a year sometimes. I do know lots of people who change
their phones often. Because of those, the companies will drop the old and
somehow push the new ones. If the users/consumers stop what they are doing
(most of them), that would be a different story but that is just what I
think and YMMV :)

> On Jan 13, 2014 9:44 AM, "Nicholas Skaggs" <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com>
> wrote:
>>  News about changing supported devices for testing and development. In
>> short, the new nexus7 is going to be supported, while the old nexus 7 and
>> nexus 10 will be dropped. On the phone side, the older Galaxy Nexus is also
>> going to be dropped.
>> I hope this helps those of you who own the newer nexus 7 and were keen to
>> help out!
>> Nicholas
>> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Ubuntu
>> Core/Touch Android 4.4 support & touch engineering
>> platform/devices/hardware going forward  Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:40:56
>> +0100  From: Alexander Sack <asac at canonical.com> <asac at canonical.com>  To:
>> Ubuntu Phone <ubuntu-phone at lists.launchpad.net><ubuntu-phone at lists.launchpad.net>
>> Hi all,
>> the Ubuntu Core - Phonedations team used their first days during this
>> new year to work on enabling the Android 4.4 enablement stack for our
>> Ubuntu Touch efforts. As moving our platform to a new Android baseline
>> means that we would have to reinvest into all currently supported
>> devices, it's time to look at what devices we want to focus on going
>> forward.
>> Fast forward to the "Summary" section if you are just interested in
>> what targets will be supported/discontinued. Here is the way of
>> thinking and the decisions about what devices/platforms we will focus
>> on going forward:
>> 1. Ubuntu Engineering (UE) will make a strong push on the _emulator_
>> during the month' ahead. Goal is to support the emulator for arm and
>> x86 as a _primary engineering platform_ for UE and our App Development
>> community. Once the emulator bits become available (stay tuned for
>> further announces) please take the time and start using the emulator
>> for everything you usually would do on the phone. We really want to
>> make the emulator a class A engineering platform for everyone and want
>> to hear about what works and what doesn't. Thanks!
>> 2. Ubuntu Engineering (UE) will _continue to focus on the Nexus 4
>> phone platform_ and will _not adopt the new Nexus 5 platform_ short
>> term (before 14.04 is out). We decided against moving to the latest
>> Nexus phone, because the switching costs were simply too high taking
>> our current engineering goals/agenda/needs for 14.04 into account. Of
>> course, once we are on android 4.4, enabling the Nexus 5 should be
>> relatively easy, so if anyone from community wants to adopt this baby,
>> please get in touch with me or the #ubuntu-touch team.
>> 3. Ubuntu Engineering (UE) will _discontinue producing builds for the
>> Galaxy Nexus (maguro) phone_ to ensure we can really focus on the N4
>> and emulator to polish and drive our Ubuntu Touch engineering agenda
>> towards 14.04.
>> 4. Ubuntu Engineering (UE) will consolidate the supported tablet
>> device landscape and focus on making one device shine rather than
>> producing builds for all the NEXUS tablet platforms out there. The
>> platform chosen to be supported on our way to 14.04 is the NEW nexus 7
>> device (razor). The chipset (same as the N4) and form factor were just
>> too compelling to not make the move; in turn, we will discontinue
>> producing builds for the old Nexus 7 (grouper) and the Nexus 10
>> (manta).
>> Community Platforms
>> ==================
>> Note, that while UE will by itself only invests in certain Nexus
>> platforms, we would be happy to explore how we can support skilled
>> community members that want to adopt one of the Nexus platforms
>> through infrastructure and to some degree know how and project
>> management services. So, if you feel you want to adopt one out of
>> Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 (grouper), Nexus 10 (manta), please talk to me
>> and the #ubuntu-touch team ....
>> Summary
>> =========
>> The primary engineering platforms for the coming month' will be:
>>  1. emulator armhf for phone and tablet
>>  2. emulator x86 for phone and tablet
>>  3. Nexus 4 (mako) for phone
>>  4. Nexus 7 (razor) for tablet
>> The following engineering platforms will get EOL'ed:
>>  1. Nexus 7 (grouper)
>>  2. Nexus 10 (manta)
>>  3. Galaxy Nexus (maguro)
>> Timeline
>> ========
>> The move to Android 4.4 enablement is currently scheduled to happen
>> ASAP, with our tentative engineering goals indicating that everything
>> will be ready by end of January 2014.
>> However, as always, we go as fast as we can and we don't plan to slow
>> down or firedrill on this one to artificially make an exact milestone
>> date. Meaning: don't be shocked if we suddenly end up being ready a
>> week earlier earlier or later. We will send more accurate info about
>> dates and infra downtime etc. roughly a week before, so stay tuned!
>> Public Live-Spreadsheet
>> ======================
>> Since the question about what phones/tablets we will support came up
>> frequently in recent weeks, UE wants to experiment with providing a
>> public live spreadsheet that will contain up-to-date data about our
>> hardware/platform support plans. If you find that useful and/or have
>> suggestions how to improve this even further, please let us know!
>> - https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdHE0RVFyb1lQYm5mYWp1Y0c3SlpZcnc#gid=0
>> Warning: please realize that while we like plans and usually try to
>> stick to them, things in this spreadsheet are by far not set in stone
>> and can change on short or even without notice ... so better don't
>> plan your business empire around this particular data without talking
>> to us first :).
>> Discussion
>> ==========
>> Please keep the discussion on the channels below:
>>  - Mailing list: ubuntu-phone at lists.launchpad.net
>> (https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/)
>>  - IRC: #ubuntu-touch on irc.freenode.net
>> Thanks,
>>  - Alexander
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