Should we use launchpad to track manual|automatic tests for Ubuntu flavours (kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, etc)?

Jack Ramsay jack at troop55.net
Sun Jan 5 00:15:46 UTC 2014


I agree that it is a good idea to start using Launchpad to track testing
as it will make it easier for us to keep track of the tests and the bugs
will be easier to find.
On 01/04/2014 05:20 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> As always,
> 
> wise words..
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> On 4 January 2014 20:38, Elfy <ub.untu at btinternet.com
> <mailto:ub.untu at btinternet.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 04/01/14 20:01, Javier Lopez wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Happy new year to all QA ubuntu members =). Since some time ago, launchpad has
>>     been used to track the progress on manual|automatic tests for Ubuntu and derived
>>     flavours (kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, etc).
>>
>>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests
>>     https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/
>>
>>     Recently however, Paul White has pointed out that some of the flavours use
>>     other mediums to track progress on this aspect, eg. Kubuntu uses
>>     https://trello.com/kubuntu.
>>
>>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1183934
>>
>>     Should keep using launchpad to track manual|automatic test for ubuntu derived
>>     flavours?
>>
>>     Greetings
>>
>     Happy new year to you too :)
> 
>     My position is simple enough.
> 
>     *Manual Testing.*
> 
>     If a flavour team wants to use the trackers then they should.
> 
>     If I'd seen this discussion before the bugs for manual testcases
>     were created, I would at that point have been -1 to a mass creation
>     of testcases for flavours without any discussion with them.
> 
>     It should be up to a team how to deal with their QA infrastructure.
> 
>     Different teams have differing resources - I'm positive that the
>     only way that we (Xubuntu) managed to get the testcases we did
>     written, onto the package tracker and actually tested was down to a
>     lot of work by a very few people at the beginning.
> 
>     It was of some concern to find ~50 bugs all tagged Xubuntu - I
>     didn't see any discussion on any mailing list about this.
> 
>     Now that we have the testcases - the tracker itself mostly looks
>     after itself. Though actually getting tests done and reported is a
>     different story.
> 
>     As far as Kubuntu goes - if they aren't using, and seem to have no
>     inclination to do so - why shouldn't the Kubuntu testcase bugs be
>     marked as invalid - as they surely are that ;) [1]
> 
>     I see that ubuntu-studio has 53 outstanding testcase bugs - they
>     have less people than we do.
> 
>     Edubuntu has 65 of them - though I've no idea how many people there
>     are available to do their testcases.
> 
>     *Autopilot testing*
> 
>     I can see the value in there being testcase bugs raised here - once
>     the testcase is done then the need for people to get involved
>     reduces remarkably - I assume.
> 
>     I'm surprised to be honest that there isn't a massive list of these.
>     Perhaps because it  would seem that autopilot was set up purely for
>     Ubuntu - which is understandable - we are having massive problems
>     even getting anything to run for us in our environment, it would
>     certainly have been of enormous help for us to have automatic
>     testing - it is looking increasingly likely that we'll not ever be
>     in a position to really take advantage of this.
> 
> 
>     *Summary*
> 
>     In summary - it seems to me that we're looking at discussing
>     something now that should have been discussed earlier.
> 
>     But the main thing we should look at is whether a flavour has any
>     intention of using the package tracker. If QA as a team hasn't
>     touched base with them - then perhaps we should be.
> 
> 
> 
>     Apologies if I did miss mailings.
> 
>     regards
> 
>     Elfy
> 
> 
>     [1]
>     https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-January/007653.html
> 
> 
> 
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