Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 65, Issue 17
Thomas Corwin
dog1489 at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 14 11:14:11 UTC 2013
Sorry guys! I sent that message "Quick Question..." To the wrong list. I meant to send it to the manual team.
Thomas Corwin
On Mar 14, 2013, at 1:18 AM, ubuntu-quality-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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> 1. Re: Quality Community (Nicholas Skaggs)
> 2. Re: TestDrive for Mac? (Nicholas Skaggs)
> 3. Quick Question... (Thomas Corwin)
> 4. New list member from UbuntuKylin (Jun Ma)
> 5. Re: PAE (Nio Wiklund)
> 6. Re: [Lubuntu-qa] 13.04 Beta 1 (Nio Wiklund)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:12:04 -0400
> From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com>
> To: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Quality Community
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> I wanted to cross-post this to our list as well, as it contains some
> pertinent info, as well as what I've written on my blog post this afternoon:
>
> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/03/kick-starting-quality-for-ubuntu-touch.html
>
> In short, let's leverage our knowledge of manual and automated testing
> for the new platform.. Starting with the core applications. We'll also
> be getting into hardware testing, writing some cool automated tests
> using umockdev (https://github.com/martinpitt/umockdev) and autopilot if
> we can, and in general smoke testing and dogfooding the images and apps
> as they come. But there's no reason to wait! We can be involved now and
> stay informed with what's happening on the platform, as well as working
> with the developers to keep things humming along nicely. There's plenty
> of cool stuff to do, enjoy and test no matter what skills you bring to
> the table, and it's all happening now.
>
> I'm excited about being a part of making sure ubuntu touch is an amazing
> platform -- I know I want a ubuntu phone, and we can be a big part of
> making it a nice experience.
>
> Squirming with excitement,
>
> Nicholas
>
> On 03/13/2013 07:03 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>> Just wanted to drop by the list to say hello and introduce myself and
>> everyone else in ubuntu quality. I'm part of the quality community
>> team, and I can't want to dive in and help test all this cool stuff
>> you guys are putting together!
>>
>> To that end, I wanted to make you aware of a few things happening now
>> to help support the testing of these applications. There is a
>> pre-existing project,https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/, and
>> tracker, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/, that we as a team utilize for
>> manual testing the current ubuntu desktop images, applications,
>> hardware, etc. In a nutshell, we as a team regularly test the desktop
>> images and applications on a variety of real and virtual hardware. We
>> maintain our tests in the repository linked above, and utilize several
>> 'qatrackers' to record our results, ie packages.qa.ubuntu.com.
>>
>> With that in mind, we want to help test this new platform, including
>> the core apps. I've started to point folks within our community
>> towards the work that is going on here in order to have some nice
>> testing going on as your applications reach a usable state. As an
>> example, I took a look at the calculator app which has made great
>> strides against the design that has been posted thus far. Using that
>> design, I wrote several tests that walk through a series of actions
>> and expected results. You can see the result here:
>>
>> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/ubuntutouch/view/head:/testcases/touch/ubuntu%20calculator%20app
>>
>> This test then ends up looking this this on our tracker (note this is
>> just a mockup on a dev site, don't submit results :-) );
>>
>> http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/250/builds/27920/testcases/1560/results
>>
>> This raw seem a bit weird to look at for some of you, but I would
>> refer you to the following pages on how we write and maintain our
>> manual tests:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual
>>
>> So, what does this mean for all of you?
>>
>> -- If you have some manual tests for your application, please, create
>> and submit them to the repository! We'll make sure our testing events
>> utilize them. There's great tutorials if your new to what a manual
>> test should look like.
>> -- If you need some manual testing of your application, please let me
>> know. We in ubuntu quality can help write tests if needed and test
>> your app.
>>
>> We as a community also have been working with autopilot, and have some
>> experience in writing those types of tests as well. There's some
>> excellent resources to help you, and I'm always interested in
>> automated tests if you need help :-)
>>
>> In short, let us help make your apps rock! We're excited about the
>> possibilities of the new platform and eager to get our feet wet and
>> help test all the new stuff.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nicholas
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:26:36 -0400
> From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com>
> To: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: TestDrive for Mac?
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> On 03/13/2013 12:21 PM, Anastasya Filatova wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Could you please help me? I'm looking for possibility to run TestDrive
>> on Mac. Is it enough to satisfy python packages dependencies? Or it
>> has some additional specific requirements?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Anastasya Filatova
> Anastasya, I'm not sure if anyone here would have any direct knowledge
> to help you as far as porting efforts would go. In theory, if you setup
> an X11 enviroment on a mac, and the dependencies for testdrive, you
> could get it to run . . . heh . . .
>
> However, what are you hoping to accomplish by using testdrive on mac?
> Perhaps suggestions can be made to use a native tool instead.
>
> Nicholas
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:43:06 -0400
> From: Thomas Corwin <dog1489 at hotmail.com>
> To: "ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com"
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> Subject: Quick Question...
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> Hello everyone! Now, I don't like to ask bad questions, especially when I don't have a voice in the matter, but, has anyone ever thought of adding a Wine section to the manual?
>
> Now, I know what some of you are thinking, "Why would we need this? It's completely unrelated." I think it is relative, mainly because it is a very common application used in Linux.
>
> If somehow, this idea is approved, I will take this section, otherwise, I may not be able to help in anyway to the manual, due to the fact I know more about Wine, than any of the available sections for editing.
>
> Thought I'd ask!
> Thomas Corwin
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:25:15 +0800
> From: Jun Ma <maclin.jun at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: New list member from UbuntuKylin
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> Hi all, I am Jun Ma from UbuntuKylin Team. Our flavor images have been
> ready since 11th March. We have been doing the ISO testing on QATracker and
> been sub-uniting our QA team for continuous tests. Welcome anyone
> interested in helping to join us. We need suggestions and help for making
> the QA work more regular and keep step to the release schedule. Thanks!
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> BTW, We have built a sample wiki of QA and been making it more perfect:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/QA
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:08:01 +0100
> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> To: Alex Janko <ajbiz11 at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 2013-03-04 19:17, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> [I forgot to broadcast the first reply to ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com]
>>
>> On 2013-03-04 18:54, Alex Janko wrote:
>>> How would I go about getting a non-pae build of 12.04?
>> Lubuntu 12.04 and Xubuntu 12.04 come with non-pae by default. So you can
>> start there and add desktop environments afterwards if you want more
>> eye-candy
>>
>> See also this link (I have tested 7bit's method and it works for me in
>> an IBM Thinkpad T42)
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113826
> I remind you about 7bit's fake-pae method, that can prolong the life of
> Pentium M. It works for me :-)
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:17:45 +0100
> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> To: Phill Whiteside <PhillW at Ubuntu.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] 13.04 Beta 1
> Message-ID: <51415D79.5060505 at gmail.com>
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> Hi Phill,
>
> I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 with a non-pae Pentium M, that accepts 7bit's
> fake-pae. What do you need? Please specify in detail, and I'll try to do
> it :-)
>
> Nio alias sudodus
>
> On 2013-03-13 02:45, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> Hi alex,
>>
>> I do not have enough information to ask the developers about your problem.
>> We really do need a bug filing as per my earlier email to you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 12 March 2013 14:15, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oooch!
>>>
>>> You can always grab a non-pae version and install that so that the machine
>>> has a (u)buntu running. Lubuntu were still certainly releasing non-pae
>>> versions up to 12.04 *i386 *[1] which should install on that machine.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>> 1. http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/
>>>
>>> On 12 March 2013 14:02, Alex Janko <ajbiz11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not anymore, no
>>>> And my sash box just went down...for some reason when running a "chmod -R
>>>> 444 /var/www/dir/dir/" it decided to ignore all of that and start at /
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>
>>>> Have you got a version of ubuntu installed onto that computer?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Phill.
>>>>
>>>> On 12 March 2013 13:38, Alex Janko <ajbiz11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Being a noob...how do I do that exactly...link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> would you please raise a bug against ubiquity, open a terminal session
>>>>> and issue:
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu-bug ubiquity
>>>>>
>>>>> from the pentium M machine, I'm not too sure what the team can do about
>>>>> it if the machine does not advertise it, but it will allow them to have a
>>>>> think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 March 2013 12:34, Alex Janko <ajbiz11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm...I also notice that there is an issue with Pentium M models...they
>>>>>> have PAE but yet don't advertise it...is there any way to allow the PAE
>>>>>> ISOs to boot on Pentium M computers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been told it had to do with the boot check, not an actual failed
>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lars,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well spotted.... I thought the list of testing was a bit shorter, but
>>>>>> didn't spot why.... Any ways,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 12:00:20) phillw: Hi folks, has AMD64+Mac been dropped from the ISO's?
>>>>>>> (12:06:37) cjwatson: phillw: No change there
>>>>>>> (12:07:05) ***cjwatson fixes bug 1153992 and tries to work out what
>>>>>>> to respin
>>>>>>> (12:07:06) ubot2: Launchpad bug 1153992 in Ubuntu CD Images "Raring
>>>>>>> server and precise d-i installations fail at the clock configuring step"
>>>>>>> [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153992
>>>>>>> (12:08:31) ***cjwatson sticks a notice on the iso.qa board
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, they're onto it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>> P.S. you are allowed to ask directly on #ubuntu-release, the good
>>>>>> people on there do not bite :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 11:40, Lars Nood?n <lars.nooden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12.03.2013 04:53, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>>>>>>> 1. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds
>>>>>>>> 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice that there are no AMD64+Mac images. Are we skipping those
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> /Lars
>>>>>>>
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