[Lubuntu-wiki-docs] End Of Life..

Wed Apr 10 01:22:39 UTC 2013

oh, okay sorry. I had an issue with 12.10 and assumed since I had used
11.10 just fine, this had been going on since 12.04, thanks for the
correction!

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:

> And I had to go back to my archive on Gmail to find more about it:
>
>
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> *On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM*, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
> amjjawad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For the ones like me who are not cryptologists, PAE : Physical Address
>>> Extension.
>>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Physical_Address_Extension<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension> a
>>> good definition.
>>> But* I'd like to know why it's important (if at all) and how it relates
>>> to Lubuntu.*
>>
>>
>> We had that discussion before but I can tell you are new to our mailing
>> list so allow me to explain briefly about that :)
>>
>> Some old machines has *NON-PAE CPU*. If you have a Linux Distribution
>> with a *PAE Kernel*, then that system will not be bootable on a machine
>> with NON-PAE CPU.
>>
>> During the development of 12.04, both Xubuntu and Lubuntu teams decided
>> to go for a NON-PAE Kernel (Generic Kernel - run "uname -r" in the
>> terminal) so those users with NON-PAE CPU will not have any problem and
>> they still can use Lubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04.
>>
>> Ubuntu Kernel Team has decided to drop the NON-PAE Kernel and go for PAE
>> Kernel.
>> As per Julien, we can't go against that unless we hire a developer who
>> can make it possible.
>> We don't have any database/numbers of how many users over there with a
>> NON-PAE CPU, that is why I asked :)
>>
>> Hope it helps :)
>
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>
> Above is an old discussion about PAE and NON-PAE Kernels :)
> We managed to go NON-PAE for 12.04 but we couldn't for 12.10 :)
>
> Hope everything is clear now ;)
> Anyone can go back to the mailing list archive if desired :)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi there David :)
>>
>> I would strongly recommend to have a read here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
>>
>> and I'm sure you may want to re-phrase what you previously said :)
>>
>> Lubuntu 12.04 is using a NON-PAE Kernel. Well, the link says it all :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:59 AM, David Gumberg <
>> davidnoizgumberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who are wondering, the reason older machines can't run
>>> 12.10 or 12.04, it's because the kernel uses PAE (it's a method to have
>>> more than 4 gigs of ram on a 32-bit operating system I think), and for
>>> those of you who have hardware that doesn't support PAE, the two good
>>> alternatives are LXLE and Fedora (LXDE spin). If you want something more
>>> upstream, go with the Fedora, but if for some reason you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
>>> have that Debian/buntu experience I'd go with LXLE (Lubuntu Extra-Life
>>> Edition), it's Lubuntu 12.04 with a couple of tweaks, and it uses a non-PAE
>>> kernel. I've tried and used both of them, and and Fedora is a bit more
>>> vanilla LXDE so I prefer it, but both alternatives are awesome!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've been discussing this issue and Lubuntu 12.04 being 100% LTS or not
>>>> [1] and all the confusion about "will Lubuntu still support my very old
>>>> machine or not?" for the last two weeks or maybe more.
>>>>
>>>> Long story short, I will jump in and find out myself some if not all
>>>> the answers that our users are seeking and looking for.
>>>>
>>>> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/lucid/
>>>> I'm downloading Lubuntu 10.04 right now from the above link.
>>>>
>>>> I will install it once done on my test machine.
>>>> I need to see myself what is going on and the EOL for the 10.04 Desktop
>>>> version is coming soon, less than a month. That will be really interesting
>>>> :)
>>>> As you know/may know, each release has different Kernel [2]. Some
>>>> machines can't use 12.04 or 12.10 because the support had been
>>>> dropped/stopped. So, if you guys have Qs about that, you do now know who is
>>>> doing the test and experiments.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> [1] - http://i46.tinypic.com/i24igz.jpg
>>>>
>>>> [2] -
>>>> http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html<http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an update for 10.04
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ending Ubuntu Desktop support just means that we no longer release
>>>>> desktop-
>>>>> related updates, the repository won't (can't) go away and be archived,
>>>>> since
>>>>> server, as you note, still depends on it.  In that sense, lucid in
>>>>> general
>>>>> is "supported" for another three years.  Nothing changes for people,
>>>>> they
>>>>> just won't get non-server SRUs and security updates from Canonical,
>>>>> nor is
>>>>> there a community commitment to make them.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, your users don't need to do anything.  Kernels will keep getting
>>>>> updated,
>>>>> and life goes on.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 29 March 2013 21:21, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just so everyone knows. The up coming EOL dates were a little bit
>>>>>> staggered on the exact dates. To bring everything together, the Release
>>>>>> Team have decided upon the following.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following releases will all reach End Of Life on May 9th 2013.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardy 8.04 (Server)
>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 (Desk Top)
>>>>>> Ubuntu 11.10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As 10.04 is supported on server until 2015 thus giving such people at
>>>>>> least a chance of still receiving kernel updates, I have asked if there is
>>>>>> a way for the 10.04 lubuntu desktop to continue to receive the kernel
>>>>>> updates for lubuntu 10.04 desktop for those of whom the dropping of the old
>>>>>> chip sets is the only option they have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The area at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has been updated by the
>>>>>> team to reflect the revised dates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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