[U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Nicholas Skaggs]

On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:
> I agree with A. Grandi! The alternate installer is *much* more stable
> than any live CD. And what about SSH installation?
>
> I second the community vote idea, as well. The other *buntus are very
> likely to follow suit, so I believe in at least giving the public a
> heads-up.
>
> --
> A. Byrne
>
> On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:23 AM, "a.grandi at gmail.com" <a.grandi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com> wrote:
>>> FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
>>> installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
>>> any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
>>> alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
>>> Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
>>> add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!
>> so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
>> proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
>> starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
>> community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
>> hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
>> decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.
>>
>> Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
>> to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
>> and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
>> after installation and risking to loose my data.
>>
>> Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
>> complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
>> use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.
>>
>> I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
>> make Ubuntu worse than it is,
>> We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Andrea Grandi - Nokia-DX/Tampere / Qt Ambassador
>> Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi
>> website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
>>
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As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to 
post them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If 
you remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no 
functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for 
everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID 
support didn't quite happen.

Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if 
you wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative 
installer) you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.


Nicholas