Questions about testing

[Gema Gomez]

On 14/08/12 12:17, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
> You don't normally use Windows alongside Ubuntu Wubi in VMs, also then
> the bootloader is better.

Agreed, the usual use case here is a user on their PC installing from
wubi from their windows. Same concerns apply, when doing this, back up
your data!

Gema

> 
> 2012/8/14 Tobias <k1fri at gmx.de <mailto:k1fri at gmx.de>>
> 
>     but wubi testing is preferred on real hardware, right??
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Am 14.08.2012 12:06, schrieb Gema Gomez:
>>     On 14/08/12 11:04, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     Mart,
>>>      
>>>     Use Gema's opinion: She's an official Canonical employee, while I am
>>>     only a active community tester...
>>     Hey, everyone's opinion count and is welcome!
>>
>>     More than a canonical employee I am a QA Engineer, I have been for many
>>     years now, so I tried to give an explanation for a new comer from that
>>     viewpoint, I hope everyone can benefit from it and I am open to
>>     discussion if you guys think it may help.
>>
>>     Thanks everyone for your help,
>>     Gema
>>
>>>     2012/8/14 Gema Gomez <gema.gomez-solano at canonical.com <mailto:gema.gomez-solano at canonical.com>
>>>     <mailto:gema.gomez-solano at canonical.com> <mailto:gema.gomez-solano at canonical.com>>
>>>
>>>         Hi Mart,
>>>
>>>         I disagree with Ho Wan Chan, here is my opinion.
>>>
>>>         On 14/08/12 10:13, "Mart Küng" wrote:
>>>         > Hi
>>>         >
>>>         > I have a couple of questions about how to configure my machine
>>>         when testing.
>>>         > Is there a significant difference if any between testing in virtual
>>>         > machine and installing on real hardware?
>>>
>>>         On virtual machines you are testing some parts of Ubuntu. On real
>>>         hardware you are testing others, in fact, depending on which hardware
>>>         you have, you are increasing our chances of finding problems for your
>>>         specific HW, because we don't have infinite HW to test on. Basically,
>>>         when you test on HW you are using drivers that noone else is potentially
>>>         using.
>>>
>>>         In the Platform QA Team in Canonical, we are testing with VMs for the
>>>         daily ISO testing, and we test on a variety of HW the different kernel
>>>         SRUs, so that we are reasonably confident that they will work on a wide
>>>         variety of HW.
>>>
>>>         Testing on HW is different from testing on VMs, both useful depending on
>>>         what you are trying to achieve, since with ISO testing we are trying to
>>>         cover as much HW as we can, testing on HW will be more useful from that
>>>         viewpoint.
>>>
>>>         >
>>>         > Would it be reasonable to dual boot version I'm testing with my
>>>         regular
>>>         > everyday system? I ask this because of my netbook: on my desktop I
>>>         could
>>>         > easily use virtual machine or change HDD-s. But netbook is to weak for
>>>         > virtual machine and changing HDD seams to troublesome.
>>>
>>>         You can dual boot your everyday system, but there are risks that an
>>>         installation goes wrong and you blow up your current system. That is the
>>>         reason why we don't recommend it. If you are confident you know your
>>>         system and that won't happen to you, I still recommend you have backups
>>>         of all the important documents before attempting the testing along your
>>>         existing system. Other than that, it is very useful that you install the
>>>         current version along an existing one, because many users will be doing
>>>         just that, and we want them to be able to do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thanks,
>>>         Gema
>>>
>>>         >
>>>         > Mart
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>
>>>
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