[Fwd: On teams with diverting work-flows]

[Sense Hofstede]

On 9 March 2010 13:03, Pedro Villavicencio Garrido <pedro at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> That workflow is being used for more than 3 years(probably 4), when  i
> joined the Ubuntu project the workflow was already there. So there's no
> new workflow here.
>

That's a mistake from my side then. I wasn't (very) actively triaging
bugs that many years ago, so it's logical I missed that. However,
maybe we should add it to the wiki to make sure even people like me
learn about this. :)

> And well you answer yourself why it's being used: "Since Launchpad
> cannot fetch the status of bugs from GNOME Bugzilla ", and I've no idea
> why that's something to ask to the launchpad team. BTW The status is
> being used *just* for bugs that were fixed upstream not for those with a
> patch (ie: unreviewed) there.
>

I was wondering if there isn't something the Launchpad developers --
or the GNOME Bugzilla developers -- could do in order to fix this.

>
> Tags are not the best for such things, everybody can change those... I'm
> sure everybody is open to suggestions but please don't use tags unless
> there's some kind of access restrictions (Ubuntu BugControl) for those.

I see your point here. Tags are easily added and I'm already annoyed
by the one or two bugs that get uselessly changed by users (or
trolls), so for you this must be even worse. We don't want to search
results to become unreliable for the teams that depend on them to
determine what they should be working on.
However, as far as I'm aware regular users can set the Fix Committed
status as well, although that does seem to be a bit less likely to be
changed by users than tags.

>> > Maybe something for a session at the UDS?
>
> That'd be great!. Thanks for raising this up.
>

I'm not the suitable person to lead such a session, but I would be
interested in helping with the session and with drawing the
specification -- if my sponsorship request gets accepted, of course.

Apologises if my previous mail sounded a bit frustrated at some
places, I was a bit tired and irritated. Next time I should save such
mails as a draft and reread them before sending them. I did not mean
to say I dislike the Desktop Team, my goal is to point at what I see
as a communication mistake and to propose a session on the UDS for
improving the integration of the different bug work-flows in use on
Launchpad in the 'ubuntu' project.

Pedro, I'm relieved to hear your OK after the terrible earth quake. I
hope your family and friends are fine as well.

Regards,
-- 
Sense Hofstede
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