[Ubuntu-PT 2641] Re: Fwd: What's happening with Mozilla and Thunderbird

[Georgy Zhukov]

Pronto, isso já se entende...

Tenho a dizer que ultimamente tinha receio que o sucesso "subisse à cabeça"
de algumas pessoas envolvidas no projecto, como já não seria a primeira vez
na comunidade OSS.

Enfim, pode ser que isto até acabe bem, dinheiro pelos vistos não falta...

Cumprimentos!

On 9/18/07, Jose Rocha <jocaferro  tux-linux.net> wrote:
>
> Olá, BUGabundo:
> A Mozilla acaba de investir 3 milhões de dólares num companhia para
> desenvolver o Thunderbird.
>
> Notícia aqui <http://www.linux.com/feature/119270>.
>
>
> @braço.
>
> 2007/9/18, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <ubuntu  bugabundo.net>:
> >
> > Recentemente a Mozilla Foundation anunciou que irá abandonar o
> > desenvolvimento do Thunderbird.
> > Nas listas de discussão de Ubuntu, apareceu este comentário, e que me
> > parece mt bem escrito e esclarecedor.
> > Peço desculpa por o publicar em Ingles.
> >
> > ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> > Subject: [users]What's happening with Mozilla and Thunderbird
> > From: "Liam Proven" <lproven  gmail.com>
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> > ubuntu-users  lists.ubuntu.com>
> >
> > Here is a summary of what's going on, as per my understanding.
> >
> > The Mozilla Foundation is the parent company developing the "official"
> > Mozilla browsers.
> > It's nominally a non-profit corporation, making a pittance from selling
> > T-shirts and baseball caps and bags and things with the Firefox logo on.
> >
> > *A bit of history*
> >
> > The original Mozilla browser was Netscape 5, open sourced. Netscape was
> > a complete suite: in one app, it was a browser, email program, Web editor,
> > IRC program, newsreader and more.
> > Some bits, for example collaborative calendaring (bought in when
> > Netscape Inc. acquired Collabra), were not open sourced, sadly.
> >
> > Historical detail that will become important: from the early days of the
> > "Netscape Suite", Netscape also offered a standalone browser, without the
> > email etc.
> > It was called "Netscape Navigator". It was dropped when Netscape
> > Communicator 4.5 was released.
> >
> > The name "Mozilla" was originally Netscape's internal codename for its
> > all-singing all-dancing browser, based on Mosaic.
> >
> > Mozilla the product (more specifically known as the Mozilla Internet
> > Suite), as in the open-source descendant of the Netscape suite, took a long
> > time to finish, partly because Netscape 5 was far from finished or working
> > when it was open-sourced.
> >
> > Mozilla was a popular browser on Unix, especially open source flavours
> > like Linux and xBSD, but it didn't make much impact on Windows.
> > It remained a minority product.
> >
> > Dave Hyatt & Blake Ross started a spinoff project, originally called
> > Phoenix. It was a cut-down version of Mozilla that was just a browser,
> > nothing else.
> > Smaller, faster and simpler, it worked alongside other apps such as
> > email programs (e.g. MS Outlook), but unlike other spinoff browsers
> > (Epiphany, K-Meleon, Camino), it still used Mozilla's cross-platform XUL
> > interface library, meaning that it was portable between Windows, Unix and
> > Mac and worked much the same on all of them, including add-ins and
> > extensions.
> >
> > Phoenix was a big success. Alas "Phoenix" is also a computer company,
> > writing PC BIOSes. So Phoenix-the-browser was renamed "Firebird" (which is
> > what a phoenix is).
> >
> > Success continues; downloads rise.
> >
> > Alas, "Firebird" is also an open-source relational database. So
> > Firebird-the-browser was renamed Firefox.
> >
> > *Mozilla chages focus*
> >
> > Firefox has done massively well. It's taken about a one-quarter share of
> > the world browser market, which is to say, it's taken it from MS Internet
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Suddenly the fairly obscure Mozilla Foundation had a big success on its
> > hands.
> >
> > So, the Mozilla Foundation changed its emphasis: from the Mozilla Suite,
> > it shifted focus to Firefox, its successful offspring.
> >
> > After a while, the Mozilla Foundation stopped officially sponsoring
> > development of the original Mozilla Suite, as it had only a tiny fraction of
> > the users that Firefox enjoyed.
> >
> > The original Mozilla Suite was revived by a team of developers outside
> > the Mozilla Foundation. It was renamed "SeaMonkey" and is still actively
> > developed today.
> >
> > *And back to Thunderbird*
> >
> > Now, the Mozilla Foundation is doing the same to Firefox's sister
> > program, Thunderbird.
> > Thunderbird is the email and newsgroup bit of the Mozilla Suite, hacked
> > out and turned into a separate program.
> >
> > Thunderbird has far fewer users than Firefox, partly because although
> > it's very good, it has many more rivals - there are dozens of successful
> > email clients out there.
> > On Windows, Outlook Express is provided for free and everyone with MS
> > Office has Outlook.
> > Mac OS X users get Apple Mail for free. On Linux there are Evolution and
> > Sylpheed and Claws and many more.
> > There's Opera, and there are free webmail services like Gmail, Yahoo and
> > Hotmail.
> >
> > The Mozilla Foundation is stopping sponsoring Thunderbird and hopes that
> > an external team of developers will take it on instead.
> > It is not yet clear that this will happen, but it seems likely.
> >
> > *the Qualcomm connection*
> >
> > On of the oldest and most popular email programs is Qualcomm's Eudora.
> > It too is being discontinued: Qualcomm's main business now is chipsets
> > for mobile phones. The official successor to Eudora is codenamed Penelope
> > and it's based on Thunderbird.
> >
> > At the moment, Penelope is an addin for Thunderbird that gives it
> > something of the look and feel of Eudora.
> >
> > This probably means that many Eudora users will ultimately switch to
> > Thunderbird.
> > This may be enough to bring it enough attention to attract a lot more
> > developer effort to Thunderbird.
> >
> > Personally, I don't like the Eudora user interface much: I used to use
> > it and I don't get on with it. However, many thousands love it.
> > A version of Thunderbird which could switch between the Netscape look
> > and the Eudora look might be really successful.
> >
> > *Summary*
> >
> > Thunderbird is about to go through a really troubled spot, but its
> > prospects actually look fairly good.
> >
> > *An interesting sidenote*
> >
> > The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit body, but actually, it's making
> > tens of millions of dollars.
> > Firefox includes a search box in the top right corner. By default, this
> > searches Google.
> > Google gives a tiny kickback to anyone referring searches to them.
> > The millions of Firefox users using the search box dozens of times a day
> > made the Mozilla Foundation over US$70 million last year.
> > So actually, Mozilla is doing *great* out of Firefox.
> >
> > On the one hand, it's only fair and reasonable that the Foundation
> > focusses its efforts on its successful product.
> >
> > On the other hand, some - myself included - feel that some of this
> > benefit should be reflected upon its other products, too.
> >
> > And on the gripping hand (to out myself as an SF fan), it would seem
> > wise for the Mozilla Foundation to spread its bets and not place all its
> > eggs in the basked of its hugely popular free browser.
> >
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