Is this mailing list defunct?

[Jorge O. Castro]

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Sebastian Rösgen
<s.roesgen at googlemail.com> wrote:
> first of all: thanks to Craig. I share your opinion. One should at least
> listen to these "pet" bugs and try to appear as if one cared about these
> bugs. They way how it people deal with these bugs is -- to me -- a display
> of a behaviour which is beyond arrogance. It is as if the Ubuntu/Canonical
> developers thought, they were dealing with kids and not with mature people.

Ok, but what does that have to do with forming a power user's team?
There is already a mailing list to discuss design issues, why rehash
that again here?

> Let me refer (again) to those two pet bugs of mine and let me explain why
> they are important to me. I really do not want to bore anyone, but I want
> you to understand me. And I want to do this especially for Jorge, to simply
> show him that his horse of arrogance is not providing him a saddle as steady
> as he might think. The nice word "pet bug" belittles a huge problem posed
> before the Ubuntu community and questions  the decision making processes
> which I criticize so much.

I have a list of bugs that bother me too, I'm just wondering how this
list went from "let's make something cool for power users" to "let's
all list all the things we don't like about Ubuntu". There is already
a mailing list to discuss design issues, I thought this list was
supposed to be about giving people tools to hot rod their systems.

> Some month ago I asked on this list if somebody of the Canonical/Ubuntu
> developers could say if it is possible that Ubuntu Tweak (after some
> modifications) can be integrated into Ubuntu by default (to offer some more
> options to configure the system). There was never any answer to this.

UT isn't even packaged and in the distro yet, which is what I would
have loved to see in 11.10. I would love to make easily installed, at
UDS when I was talking with didrocks we discussed the possibility of
having "about:config" in the dash just prompt you to install it, but
alas we ran out of time.