Is this mailing list defunct?

Sat Oct 8 10:55:47 UTC 2011

Speaking (or discussing) about features that are needed:

I played around with the Oneiric daily build and noticed that there is 
no configuration tool for Zeitgeist installed by default. I know that 
there is the activity log manager. But shouldn't it be installed by default?

So besides an easy way to configure shared folders, user permissions 
etc. I miss a tool to configure search and Zeitgeist.

I also would vote for a category "shared folders" in the control center. 
I usually share several folders over the network and I would like to 
have an overview of all shared folders (and of who is allowed to access 
these folders), which could be made available over the control centre. 
There should then also be the possibility to manage the shared folder 
user permissions in this category of the gnome control centre.

About any advanced user permission setting I can only say that, to my 
knowledge, the GNOME developers are not going to add any more options to 
the accounts manager concerning "setting groups" or whatever. Look at: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658418

I hope this will not affect applications like virtualbox (which I need). 
Because with virtualbox you always had to add your user account to the 
vbox usergroup. Having again to type in the terminal to add you to the 
user group would be, in my opinion, a regression (though I know that 
many console-jockeys love their terminal, I really prefer two 
mouse-clicks over a couple of commands typed in the bash).

Does anybody know if the possibility to manage groups via accounts 
manager will be added to Ubuntu by the Ubuntu developers?

About the appearance tool: I think the new appearance tool is ok. Not 
superb, but it allows you to switch the theme and the wallpaper. Indeed, 
it would be nice to have a preview of the theme you choose (before you 
have to click on every available theme until you have decided which to 
use), but I think it serves its purpose. Though opinions certainly can 
differ about this.

Am 07.10.2011 12:17, schrieb adrienn.hunter:
> I consider gnome-tweak-tool as an easy way to change the theme, icon 
> set and fonts, however I miss the old appearance tool. Also we lost 
> the gui for several settings, like shared folder user permissions, and 
> advanced user permission settings. Am I the only one missing these? I 
> could successfully compile gnome-system-tools for the latter, but it's 
> still 3.0 and seems like the development has been stopped. The 
> appearance tool is a bit more complicated, i couldn't do it yet. These 
> should be included in ubuntu like it used to be in my opinion.
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: Is this mailing list defunct?
> From: Miguel Branco <mig.jcb at gmail.com>
> To: Daniel Hollocher <danielhollocher at gmail.com>
> CC: ubuntu-power-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> I assumed that power user in this scenario was anyone who didn't 
> actually use the defaults, making an effort to learn and configure 
> their system to their liking.
> However, I feel that the terminology 'power-user' is somewhat 
> inappropriate now. Come Oneiric, we don't even have an easy way to 
> configure the font size, let alone icon set.
>
> That's why I think Ubuntu needs a tool like this more than ever. I 
> give a lot of credit to TualatriX's effort, but I find it limiting to 
> just be able to mess with gconf keys. We need to edit configuration 
> files as well, and probably be able to run small pieces of code that 
> interpret those files and change them automatically.
>
> Again, I propose we write a list of things we would like to customize, 
> so we can build a tool / plugin for a tool / support in Ubuntu Tweak 
> to change those settings easily. These settings should cover Oneiric's 
> needs, so don't leave anything out just because Natty had a GUI for it.
>
> Personally, out the top of my head, I'd like:
>
> Appearance settings (font style and size, iconset, theme (already 
> included in Oneiric))
> Grub appearance, usual settings (low priority, tools exist)
> Power Saving actions (low priority for now, I guess)
>
> I'll remember more eventually as I'm configuring Oneiric, I'll write 
> them down somewhere later.
>
> *Miguel Branco *
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> <http://www.facebook.com/mig.branco>
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>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 01:33, Daniel Hollocher 
> <danielhollocher at gmail.com <mailto:danielhollocher at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Hey folks,
>     So, there is obviously some complaining.  I think that shows there
>     is passion and some sort of energy out there.  I think what is
>     missing is some sort of leadership.
>
>     I think any direction taken is going to require effort, and it is
>     hard to tell whether a complaint is an expression of frustration
>     about not being able to help, or that complaint is the sum total
>     of the effort that person wants to put in.  IMHO, it's that
>     ambiguity that would make it hard to bring in leadership to this
>     current situation.
>
>     For myself, I would have liked to see (and would have liked to
>     help discuss) a better definition of "power user."  I think the
>     term is vague, and the original discussions were vague in the same
>     way.  It seemed like a power user was just someone who knew about
>     some mysterious configuration option, and that is what made them a
>     power user, just that knowing.  So Ubuntu Tweak solved everything
>     in that regard, by giving the option an easy interface.
>
>     I wanted to see focus on different types of power users, like a
>     multi-tasking-unity power user; a user would who is adept at
>     getting things done quickly on the unity shell.  And maybe a
>     look-and-feel power user; someone who knows how to customize the
>     graphics of every part of ubuntu from grub to the splash screen to
>     the desktop icons.  And there are other "power users" that deserve
>     attention, wiki pages, GUIs, whatever.
>
>     2c,
>     Dan
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